EVE General Discussion

I'll rephrase this to make it semi-constructive criticism.

The rather benign griping (much of it light-hearted) is quite fair, especially when you consider the silence -- except from the volunteer CCP Defense Force.

I came back to EVE primarily because I miss PvP and to hook back up with friends -- who now happen to be in the Blue Doughnut fight.

It's not my favorite type of PvP, but I like null so I figured, what the heck.

I had rejoined RvB, in-part, to afford me time to catch up on changes in EVE and engage in casual PvP; then Goons wanted their moons, and the galaxy is in chaos.

Ok, fine -- sounds fun.

But among a couple other issues, (that have nothing to do with CCP much) I really don't want to spend my time and money looking at a warp animation for 20 min or more, one that I'm not all too fond of in the first place.

I'm not upset about it, I have other games to play. I rather play EVE, but I don't have the focused time to put forth the effort needed to be passionate about the game as I used to be.

I'm disappointed a bit, as flying with my mates is good times. But I'll adapt and catch one or two of them elsewhere.

Meanwhile, I'll pay for another month and re-evaluate the situation as it evolves (or doesn't) and adjust my plans accordingly.

And I suppose I will also make the most of reading the posts of people complaining about other people complaining ...in this and many other threads.

Yes im sure fixing lag of 3000+ players in 1 system is an easy fox and CCP is just being lazy

Think about the mass of Data that has to be transferred, processed, sent back, every second with that many people. Optimizing this and improving what it can handle is a technical feat that will take time.

This is part of a war winning strategy.

Imagine shooting structures in TiDi, the joy.

Sounds like some other feature(s) we know about... not much communication... seemed to work better before...

We can freely blame CCP for the crap tidi is. Why? Simply as this: almost all game mechanics favour numbers, numbers and numbers in PvP. Bringing superiour numbers is the strongest factor n PvP. Be it small or large scale PvP. CCP is aiming for large battles and/or ammassing forces. If they can't handle it - we can blame them. The biggest problem of tidi is, that it effects people, who try to stay out of massive fleet engagements. People, who are not even near the happening battles have to suffer from this giants blobs (performance wise).

ps: Since this is a drunk post, please excuse ugly grammar and/or spelling errors.

Hehe sounds as if we should be thankful, that our game experience is only horrible instead of non existant

Yes. Yes, you probably should, and the reason is that your complaint tells me that you weren't around for the last Great War. During that conflict there was a distinct tactic in use. Whoever got first into a system won the fight, because once a certain level had been reached then anyone who jumped in would be black-screened. But... the ships would jump in, with the pilots still in them, immobile before the waiting horde that was already in the system. CVA learned this lesson in the most destructive way possible when the battle for Providence raged on.

The primary thing being that you do not actually understand is the nature of the problem, which is social rather than technological. CCP can never solve the problem of too many people in the same fight, because as soon as CCP achieve a level of stability at a certain level, then the players bring in even more players until the system once again becomes unstable.

TiDi is a solution to a social problem. Unfortunately it does not act much as a deterrent to the lemming behaviour of the player base that insist on bringing more and more people to a fight. CCP can never engineer away the human element, no matter how much hardware they dedicate to the problem.

What is this great war you speak of? I took a break of 2 years ... but the situation you're describing (who ever jumps in first = winner) was already dominant ... uh ... 5 years ago. And i'm more concerned about thiose guys and girls, who do not take part in massive blobs (yes just like me) and still get punished. According to your "social behavour problem" they're doing it right ... and still have to suffer from that game mechanic. So yeah we CAN blame CCP for that.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/06/15/eve-online/

Please read this link (it was linked on this forum before but can't find it).

You can see that CCP is trying their best (I don't know **** about computer hardware, but if you are using military one of a kind setup I assume that is good), and the problem is much more complicated that it seems.

I don't believe that CCP is intentionally cutting corners and saving costs, it is just a problem that no one faces other than EVE. Where in the gaming industry do you have this many people with so much data in one instance (I guess there PS2 but that is much less calculations, less players, etc..). CCP is limited by the hardware options they have available (which there is none). There is simply no demand on such hardware, so why make them. I might be wrong about no other options but that is what the article says, so please don't scream at me with your L33t knowledge about hardware, just correct me nicely, I am a sensitive being.

It is a choice really, if you want big fights you have to deal with TIDI. It's ******, but at least it's fair, as both sides experiences equally, yes even the goons.

And CCP the balance of highsec and nullsec is still borked please fix NAOW (a complaint just so I don't sound like a CCP poodle)

well, the other improvement they had in sight was to implement something akin to Ifiniband to move processing threads about the whole network of processors in the server cluster. you don't need to be a tecnojumbo guy to understand that this bit here is pretty much hi-tech edge that only a handfull of companies have the capability to have it done, if there was anybody that did it.

when they implenented TiDi, it was visible that it was a stopgap so that they could catch some air and develop new ways, including the Infiniband project. Players, as usual, think the system can handle 1 zillion of players, so they try to put 2 zillion players in the same system. so yes, it's no wonder you get max TiDi in the end.