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What kind of corp should I join?

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Lidam
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-22 02:48:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lidam
The isolated life of the NPC corp is starting to bore me. I'm actively looking for a corp, but they all seem to specialize in some domain of the game, and I'm unsure of what I want from a corp.

I'm a month old player, and up until now I've mainly been trading. With a lot of research, work and some luck I've managed to amass a decent amount of isk. Probably not that much for a vet but still a decent amount for a newbie. It would seem that joining an industry corp would be perfect for me. I do find industry to be an interesting career, but the skillpoints required to be competitive is intimidating and I want to focus on being able to pilot ships competently for now. Most importantly, all the industrial corps I've seen, or at least the ones in the recruitment channel all seem to be exclusively centered around highsec, which seems terribly boring. Although I don't consider it a priority, I am not averse to PvP and I want to try out some fleet ops at some point in the near future. (Funnily enough, I lost my first ship & pod today, fortunately didn't lose anything significant)

Are there any industry/trade oriented corps that also regularly partake in PvP? I've looked at lowsec corps but those mostly consist of pirates which I'm not interested in and 0.0 corps, which are interesting but moving to nullsec would make trading difficult unless I made a second toon, which I don't want to do yet (also WH corps, but my SP is too low to do anything really useful in a WH). I'm open to suggestions and I'll also reconsider anything if you make a compelling case.
Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#2 - 2013-06-22 03:01:36 UTC
Yes, there are corps like you describe. You just have to look around and get to know some folks.

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#3 - 2013-06-22 03:39:31 UTC
By the sounds of it you are looking for more of an all around corp. Some people will say this is a bad idea, but in some cases these corps work out very well, so dont let that disencourage you from joining one.
As the above poster said, look around, get to know people and then approach them about joining.

Also, you might get some useful tips on how to find a corp by reading this guide; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3165876#post3165876

Good luck and hope you find one Big smile
Max Godsnottlingson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-06-22 06:35:37 UTC
Just a suggestion here.

If you are a month old and new to Eve, why not join something like Eve Uni. That way you will learn a lot more about this thing that we call Eve, plus you will also meet a lot of people.

Who knows, rather then joining somebody elses Corp which you have to tag along in, you might form your own Corp with a few like minded friends you have met in EU.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2013-06-22 06:50:15 UTC
"Industry" Corps tend to actually be mining corps. Industry on most scales is easily handled by an individual.

If you're interested in PvP, join a PvP corp. Just leave an alt behind to keep your trading going.

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Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-22 07:27:05 UTC
^^^ this^^^ A proper trader only takes a few weeks. Make an alt, leave it in a hub & go do something fun with all that ISK
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#7 - 2013-06-22 07:41:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Chal0ner
Lidam wrote:


Are there any industry/trade oriented corps that also regularly partake in PvP?


Yes Blink

Although things look a bit grim at the moment. But I would suggest you direct your interest at industrial/allround corps in null sec or at least some corp that has a broad base of actiity in both hs and low sec. There are newbie friendly ones, even if most corp up front has a sp-lower limit, these can often be negotiated with a good attitude, especially towards pvp.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#8 - 2013-06-22 20:57:43 UTC
Check out Planetary Interaction.

It takes about week of skilling to start colonizing properly, and due to the fact players can wage war for the customs offices of planets outside of hisec, it has some interesting mechanics such as standings-based tax rates. The further out of hisec you do PI, the better your planets are going to be (lowsec is ok-ish, null and wspace are the best). The mining happens semi-passively so it's more about doing smart, covert pickups then it is about active resource gathering. It will see you sneaking around lowsec, and if your corp itself owns a few customs offices you have something to protect and a reason to fight pirates: after all, they are bad for business.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#9 - 2013-06-23 11:37:38 UTC
Sounds like EVE University is for you. They care bear, they PvP, they have camps in high, low, null, and wormholes that you can try out. It seems you are looking for a bit of everything and that is what they offer. Few other corps really manage to pull off the "all around corp" thing as well.

Don't stick around forever, though. EVE Uni does not allow piracy, theft, scamming, killing random neutrals (or blues) or smack talk, and since these are the most enjoyable aspects of the game, you will be missing out bigtime if you become another of the many E-Uni lifers.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#10 - 2013-06-25 06:47:15 UTC
Industry works better if you have a lot of ISK behind you.

So get some startup capital efficiently. While you have a clean corp history, join random PVE corps, find their members, scan them down in missions or talk them into bringing you along, and tackle and ransom them. Orcas are great but mission boats work too. You should be able to secure reasonable amounts of capital in this fashion (whether you honor ransoms or not is up to you, I suggest you demand an extra 50% over the agreed amount then honor the higher ransom).

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#11 - 2013-06-25 08:15:56 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Industry works better if you have a lot of ISK behind you.

So get some startup capital efficiently. While you have a clean corp history, join random PVE corps, find their members, scan them down in missions or talk them into bringing you along, and tackle and ransom them. Orcas are great but mission boats work too. You should be able to secure reasonable amounts of capital in this fashion (whether you honor ransoms or not is up to you, I suggest you demand an extra 50% over the agreed amount then honor the higher ransom).



It would be worth mentioning that if you do things like this (blowing up corp members, scamming, theft and similar) there is always a chance that the information will be made public which can in turn make it more difficult to find a corp in the future.
So if this is something you are interested in doing i would advice you to consider very carefully if you want to do it on your "main" or if you want to create an alt that you would not feel bad about just getting rid off if your reputation gets damaged to much.
Steven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-25 08:59:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Steven Koskanaiken
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Industry works better if you have a lot of ISK behind you.

So get some startup capital efficiently. While you have a clean corp history, join random PVE corps, find their members, scan them down in missions or talk them into bringing you along, and tackle and ransom them. Orcas are great but mission boats work too. You should be able to secure reasonable amounts of capital in this fashion (whether you honor ransoms or not is up to you, I suggest you demand an extra 50% over the agreed amount then honor the higher ransom).



If you are going to give out ******** advice. Stop posting here.

This idea works but will get you locked out of most corporations quite quickly and thus doesn't work in the end.
So it does work, to some extend. And is usually done with alts Twisted
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#13 - 2013-06-25 09:24:26 UTC
If you join a FW corp, you'll be pretty safe in your own faction's high-sec but can just hop into low-sec for PvP goodness. Similarly, RvB has a very defined "territory" where PvP takes place, and outside it you're as safe as someone just generally in that space would be (so, mostly, but not totally).

There are also many independent corps that pretty much do what you're asking for, look in the recruitment forum and search around a bit.

I'd actually recommend against E-Uni, you don't need an extra tutorial or find the difficulty curve too steep for whatever reason, you just people to play with.
Steven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-25 09:58:41 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
If you join a FW corp, you'll be pretty safe in your own faction's high-sec but can just hop into low-sec for PvP goodness. Similarly, RvB has a very defined "territory" where PvP takes place, and outside it you're as safe as someone just generally in that space would be (so, mostly, but not totally).

There are also many independent corps that pretty much do what you're asking for, look in the recruitment forum and search around a bit.

I'd actually recommend against E-Uni, you don't need an extra tutorial or find the difficulty curve too steep for whatever reason, you just people to play with.


RvB's battleground is NOW the entire EVE cluster. It used to be only in the Forge but that got changed a while back. Same with the taxes to prevent people mission running while in RvB and losing their ships to 3rd party war targets.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-06-26 15:37:36 UTC
Steven Koskanaiken wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Industry works better if you have a lot of ISK behind you.

So get some startup capital efficiently. While you have a clean corp history, join random PVE corps, find their members, scan them down in missions or talk them into bringing you along, and tackle and ransom them. Orcas are great but mission boats work too. You should be able to secure reasonable amounts of capital in this fashion (whether you honor ransoms or not is up to you, I suggest you demand an extra 50% over the agreed amount then honor the higher ransom).



If you are going to give out ******** advice. Stop posting here.

This idea works but will get you locked out of most corporations quite quickly and thus doesn't work in the end.
So it does work, to some extend. And is usually done with alts Twisted


No idea what you are talking about. Psychotic Monk has turned this into a career and routinely gets into corps on his "Psychotic Monk" char with decorations labeling him an awoxer and a corp history so long it lags your computer just trying to load it. The'll always be some place to go and someone who can't be bothered to do any sort of background check.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#16 - 2013-06-26 21:30:26 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Steven Koskanaiken wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Industry works better if you have a lot of ISK behind you.

So get some startup capital efficiently. While you have a clean corp history, join random PVE corps, find their members, scan them down in missions or talk them into bringing you along, and tackle and ransom them. Orcas are great but mission boats work too. You should be able to secure reasonable amounts of capital in this fashion (whether you honor ransoms or not is up to you, I suggest you demand an extra 50% over the agreed amount then honor the higher ransom).



If you are going to give out ******** advice. Stop posting here.

This idea works but will get you locked out of most corporations quite quickly and thus doesn't work in the end.
So it does work, to some extend. And is usually done with alts Twisted


No idea what you are talking about. Psychotic Monk has turned this into a career and routinely gets into corps on his "Psychotic Monk" char with decorations labeling him an awoxer and a corp history so long it lags your computer just trying to load it. The'll always be some place to go and someone who can't be bothered to do any sort of background check.


It should be noted that he said most corporations, and that it works to some extend.

Basically, someone like Monk is pulling it off yes, but Monk will also have issues getting into most (note the most there) corporations that are more serious when/if he ever decides to turn Monk into a "good guy".
Of course im sure he has friends that he can join, but now we are assuming that Monk is his only character and he is to young in EVE to really have gained any deeper friendships or a level of trust that will be deep enough to overlook his...habits Smile

Thus it would be wiser for someone who is new to EVE to do these kind of things on an alt that they can throw away, since it can make their life difficult later on if they want to change their career.
Lidam
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-06-27 05:04:26 UTC
Well, I've found a corp that seemsto suit my needs enough. It's an industrial corp in highsec but surrounded by lowsec with weekly roams so no lack of PvP either. Thanks everybody for your advice!