EVE General Discussion

Hello everyone,

I am creating that topic to share my personnal experience about the game and his behaviour, that urban legends who say 1 new player on 20 keep playing eve after trial.


First of all i would like to say i am playing video game & mmo about 10-11 years now. I tryed a lot of them, and i always play for the competition and the performance. I enjoy broke my head on maths or stuff to be more effectif.




I started to play probably 2 Weeks ago. A friends of me, who is a Roleplay addict wich play eve since 7 years now always told me : " Come on eve, its a complexe game, u will enjoy it, market, trading, everythings need theorycrafting on eve. "
And i'm not a real fan of Roleplay, i basically dont care of story. But i tryed, its about one year he asked me to play the game, so i've buyed it.


I first started to do the whole tutorial, the 50 missions and my friends spended 8 hour on skype with me to explain me manny stuff. The day after i was reading the ISK Game guide in complete edition while i was mining.

I oriented first to tradings, and train all of my skillz around lvl 3 + , i maked deep theorycrafting to make efficiency tradings, and in less than 5 day i was around 50 000 000 ISK.

After tradings, i was bored because its too much investissement in time for too less money income ( When u have a little capital as i have at that moment ) so i oriented myself into mining,

I mined, make theorycraft again for making money the most efficiency possible, and train the relative skillz for this, until i got my covetor. In addition of that i buyed a second account to haul the minerals to the capital to optimize the money i was doing.
I can't get highter than 8 400 000ISK / Hour. Only way to be more usefull is to train for deep modulated miner II, wich take 3d ( for me ) or go and get Hulk and get all of my mining skillz lvl 5 wich take, as u all know, an insane time.. more than 120D in all addition.


So i switched into salvaging / archeology, i fitted my ship heron for the archeology and started to research. But i can't found any stupid data/relic site because of "UNLUCK " wtf?? anyway, my only way to make money will be to go into combat zone / wormhole / low sec wich all required atleast 5day of military ( ship, turret, cloaking , hull ) to be effectif and can do it.





So now i've told u, all of my 2 week experience of the game, i would like to ask u, why play eve?

I like the game, the ambiance, the people inside the game who are very kind, and clever. But why play eve like another game, i mean when u play a game u like to do something on it, be usefull, have a goal a target.

The only key who stay with eve is : WAITING FOR YOUR SKILLZ TO BE LEARNED. U can be good as u want, play 18h/day, be smart as u want, research and found some tutorial by yourself, make theorycrafting, u are ALWAYS locked by times

U can't do **** in this game without wait a tons of times. But, yes people will tell me, u can go and have fun, do mission, salvage 2-3 rats for 50 000ISK benefit, u can try to pirate, or stuff, but thats seems pretty much as touching ur penis and play like a baby.

If u wanna be serious and have fun on the game, its simple, buy the game, keep him active, connect yourself everyday to make a 1d skillz queue, and in 2-3 years u can start to play and have fun.


This is very sad, Eve is like wine, u can buy a 2013 red wine bottle, drink it and appreciate it, but if u wait 2-3-5-8 years more, she will be so much more tasty. And i'm not agreed with that politics of waiting for a game. This is so desperating for new player, i mean as me who like to be usefull..


This is not a trolling post, or aggressiv, i just wanted to give my opinion of why some player leave eve just after start it..

( Sorry for my english, its not my birth language, i probably did a tons of fault. )

Thanks for reading my post, greetings,

Ip Man-li

In EVE, you have to make goals for yourself, whether pertaining to an in-game mechanic, or a meta game situation. I am entering my third year now, and to be quite honest, my current goal is to keep my corpmates from being a bunch of eternal carebears. I have to push for roams, roles to create corp fittings, etc....but that goal keeps me logging in for the time being. EVE is a big game, man. And you are limited only by game mechanics and your imagination. The rest is up to you.

The major mistake you make is assuming that a person with low SP and ISK can not be useful- and all I can tell you, and I hope you realize that, is that this assumption could not be more incorrect...

You are focusing too much on ISK/hr, attempting to be master of all trades... You must focus on an area, an area you like, and the harder you work and the more you try in that area, you will become good at it.

Keep in mind that eve caters for a certain type of gamer and is FAR more attractive to people who have only a few smaller gaps to play games, so the SP over timer thing is a great way to "progress". Its a game that rewards good planning and patience.

I agree there is a bit of a "time-grind" when first starting out. I was still able to have fun at first running missions, getting blown up trying to pvp, and doing some exploration.

If I were to do it over again, I would have focused my training more towards being able to fly a broader range of tech 1 stuff as opposed to having to get into tech 2 ships. There's a lot more training and isk involved to fly tech 2 stuff and as a new player I really wasn't able to put them to use.

I recommend strongly, if you haven't already, to find a good corp with people you like hanging out with as soon as possible. EVE is infinitely more enjoyable with friends.

If you are truly unable to have fun without more skill points, just train skills for a few months then come back to the game.

Get EVEMON and EVEHQ/EFT if you haven't already.

50 mil in 5 days trading in your first two weeks is pretty good imo. No way I could have done that when I first started. Use that 50 mil to buy some cheap t1 frigs and go get blown up some. Or better yet, get some friends and go get into some fights.

Or, maybe eve just isn't for you. I hope it is, but it's not for the majority of video game players. That's a good thing.

Did you even read my post in it's entirety? I said:



So you aren't really disagreeing with me. You just thought you were.

Play FW. You will destroy standings of at least one faction, but you can make billions easy.

There is where maybe i wasn't clear. I don't ask to be in a godmode after 2 weeks ofc. But there is no way to have a real progression with ur own talent as physicall person.

U can't be better with your own investissement, its just time, time, time REAL time, thats all the problems, if it was in game times will be better. For exemple, lets take what i'm currently doing :

I am flying around planet , and probe scanning them. I scan perfectly, no problems to analyze signature. But i can't found any data/relic site, just because i'm unlucky.

My solution to have fun in my actual way to enjoy the game, will be to take benefit of what i can do actually , is scanning wormhole/combat site or go in low sec to can have more chance to found a relic/data site.

I can't do that with my helon, u are agree with me i guess. So once i analyzed a wormhole / combat site, to go in, i have to have a fighting ship, a destroyer or battleship, cruiser or battlecruiser. For the little of them, its still take me 1D 14h just to can buy and make them active ( I dont even talk about rigs / turret ).

This is the logical things to do, is to enter in wormhole or combat zone with a ship who can fight, or i can go with my helon and blow up my 60 000 000 ISK of scanning materials by rats. ( Don't laught, i did that mistake 1 times already. )

Or i can go in low sec, and get blowed up by a random player because i don't have cloaking system wich take me currently 14h00 to train?

So tell me, what can i do now? Keep flying around, until 1D and 14h00 , scanning all the system without can enter inside? This is how i'm supposed to enjoy my actual career?

I was waiting that kind of answer, for some old player OFC 2 day queue its like a jokes. I Totally understand u, but try to think at my place too. I dont complain of my losse, this is my responsability, my mistake and i assumate it, is not the subject. It was an exemple.

1. SOE Epic Arc
2. Every career agent for each empire
3. Give station trading a shot
4. Mine in a venture
5. go lose your Ship fighting in low sec pvp for fun
6. Join a corporation
7. Be apart of an alliance
8. use station trading to afford a new character with more SP on the bazaar
9. Do the tutorials!
10. If all else fails leave this game, is not for you...