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How much is Eve Isk worth to the commoner, planetside npc?

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Chihiro Chugakusei
Fortune Hunters - Navy Operations
#1 - 2013-06-19 17:04:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Chihiro Chugakusei
I have sometimes wondered how much isk must be worth to the commoners and everyday citizens of Eve. The folks who are planet side, have a job at a coffee shop and earn normal or minimum wage. We are after all, buying and selling massive battleships that man thousands of people for only a few million ISK. So how much is 1 Isk worth to your average amarran, or Gallente by purchasing power parity?

Are there stories or articles that talk about this? Currently my best guess is that 1 ISK would be worth about 100$ if you were a pleb.

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Velarra
#2 - 2013-06-19 17:27:48 UTC
You could probably find a precise answer somewhere within the Evelopedia. Yet off hand i recall some ages ago reading that a single shuttle, amounted to the income an average baseline family might invest/save away for retirement purposes or similar when the time came.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2013-06-19 17:32:21 UTC
About tree fiddy.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-06-19 17:38:04 UTC
Dollars? Lol. You have no power here.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-06-19 17:41:32 UTC
You can buy 2.5 tonnes of tobacco for 44 ISK.

…compare that to how much a pack costs at your local store. P
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-06-19 17:49:14 UTC
Tippia wrote:
You can buy 2.5 tonnes of tobacco for 44 ISK.

…compare that to how much a pack costs at your local store. P
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It's settled, I will now buy tobacco in EVE and smuggle it out to sell on the streets of Detroit or Chicago for crazy profits!
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#7 - 2013-06-19 17:54:24 UTC
Looking up the exchange rate, I found out ISK is the currency of Iceland. 1 dollar is worth 120 ISK.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#8 - 2013-06-19 17:58:29 UTC
You can buy a well equipped used Datsun 280z for one ISK in Tama on planet 5... but it's probably stolen so don't ask a lot of questions. My whole Drake maintenance team got Datsuns last year as their x-mas bonus for not all dying.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2013-06-19 18:00:30 UTC
Gogela wrote:
You can buy a well equipped used Datsun 280z for one ISK in Tama on planet 5... but it's probably stolen so don't ask a lot of questions. My whole Drake maintenance team got Datsuns last year as their x-mas bonus for not all dying.

Bonuses for not dying? What kind of weak-ass ship are you running?!


Oh, wait… Datsuns. So it's a punishment. Well, carry on then.
Lady Areola Fappington
#10 - 2013-06-19 18:04:20 UTC
This is old info, and I've honestly forgotten where I've heard it, but the figures I've seen tossed around are 50ISK=live comfortably your entire life, and richest man in RL=2500 ISK.

It's not very easy to convert, as planet based and ISK currency are entirely two different beasts. 1 ISK would basically be useless on a planet with very little interstellar commerce.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#11 - 2013-06-19 18:13:04 UTC
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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#12 - 2013-06-19 18:14:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gogela wrote:
You can buy a well equipped used Datsun 280z for one ISK in Tama on planet 5... but it's probably stolen so don't ask a lot of questions. My whole Drake maintenance team got Datsuns last year as their x-mas bonus for not all dying.

Bonuses for not dying? What kind of weak-ass ship are you running?!

Oh, wait… Datsuns. So it's a punishment. Well, carry on then.

We don't have a formal hull repair training program. Honestly most of my crew I found in cans floating around space. Sometimes those guys are engineers, so I tell them you keep the ships in good repair, washed, and waxed, and I don't jettison you out the airlock. It's a mutually beneficial working relationship. SO! The engineers found out that if they train the others the probability of becoming frozen space debris is lower. However, if they all die on me than there's no one to train the new meat for the grinder... It's kind of like Gantz. They get enough points they get released. I think you can see now how the Datsuns fit into all of this.
Shocked

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#13 - 2013-06-19 18:29:27 UTC
Very rough calculations:

Ton of wheat ~ $300
Eve wheat per ton ~ 80 isk
xrate: 1isk - $3.75

Ton of spirits ~ $5000
Eve spirits per ton ~ 168 isk
xrate: 1isk - $29.80

Predator drone - $4m
warrior I - 10,000 isk
xrate: 1isk - $400

406mm artillery ~ $ 1.4 million
EVE 280mm artillery ~ 100,000isk
xrate: 1isk - $14

Space Shuttle - $1.7 bil
EVE Shuttle ~ 10,000 isk
xrate: 1isk - $170,000
(Bit of a dodgy one as our space shuttle is more likely the equivalent of an Erebus or something, seeing as it is the peak of our technological advances into space. An eve shuttle should more likely me the equivalent of a 2 seat Cessna...)

So the estimate of 1isk = $100 probably isn't far off, but who knows. The differences in technology level, capital cost etc etc are just not comparable between earth and an advanced, space-fairing species.

Damn nature, you scary!

Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#14 - 2013-06-19 18:52:31 UTC
It has never really been said by CCP, but otherwise, it depends on where you're looking:

There have been people who have worked out (based on RL commodities such as tobacco and alcohol) that 1 ISK is mid-$40 range, while some of the Chronicles that have been written have stated that just a few ISK left as a tip for a waitress at Jita are worth more than her entire year's wage.

I'm at work, presently, so doing various searches for this is not the easiest for me, but drop your question into Google and you'll find a wealth of information.

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Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#15 - 2013-06-19 18:55:41 UTC
To the average NPC living on a planet somewhere in the vastness of the Eve universe isk is just a universal form of currency accepted in new eden, most populations have their own planet side form of currency.

Reasons for this is in various missions and places in space you can pick up "bags of hard currency" as payment for things as well.

So take long limb roes for example, it is a rare delicacy enjoyed by the rich pricing varies but hovers around 12 to 20 thousand isk.

Water, fuel, and yes planetary vehicles exist.

If an industrial structure cost 80000 isk and when upgrading you PI structure cost a few million isk to have it up and running top notch factory.

So in terms of comparison to planetary currency vs isk it's to speculative.

But in terms of RL vs EVE isk works out to this;

(US$ 20) / 565 million = 3.53982301 × 10 -8 U.S. dollars

I think it looks like this $ 0.00000000565 to the dollar

Believe it or not isk was / is worth more then that 100 trillion Zimbabwe note that was circulating not to long ago.
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#16 - 2013-06-19 19:56:39 UTC
Just my 0.02isk:

I had taken a stab at writing a short story at one point, and needed to do some research on this subject. I turned to Google to see what I could come up with, and the answers are about as varied as the ones in this thread.
I ran across some info equating 1 isk to 1 Euro based on the marketing slogan claiming Quafe is the most popular soft drink in New Eden (thus rendering the value of the isk to be very comparable to non-pod-pilot wages due to the assumption that the drink is popular with all people, not just pod-pilots).
Others claimed that just a few isk would equate a lifetimes worth of wages for a single family household.

I wound up leaning more towards the latter, simply because it allowed me to write the story such that pod-pilots were viewed by common planet dwellers as nearly god-like. After that the story got all sorts of non-canon, and wound up in the "unfinished" folder. Eve players are very picky about lore specifics, and I'm not one to rock that boat, but I still tend to lean towards the idea that a few isk is worth an amazing amount of money to the people who live on the planets we never set foot on.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#17 - 2013-06-19 20:08:44 UTC
I generally use $1000 to one ISK for RP purposes. I think I got it from cruise missiles.

And that is why the entire Monocle thing was not about $1000 jeans, it was about 1 trillion dollar jeans. A Monocle costs 1.5 billion ISK at jita. At $1000 per ISK, that means its a 1.5 trillion dollar item, at least in terms of role play. Somewhat immersion breaking for many players.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2013-06-19 20:14:03 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I generally use $1000 to one ISK for RP purposes. I think I got it from cruise missiles.

And that is why the entire Monocle thing was not about $1000 jeans, it was about 1 trillion dollar jeans. A Monocle costs 1.5 billion ISK at jita. At $1000 per ISK, that means its a 1.5 trillion dollar item, at least in terms of role play. Somewhat immersion breaking for many players.

At least they have the benefit of being infinite space pants (as in “infinite space-pants”, not “infinite-space pants”), which I suppose comes at a premium…
Amarra Mandalin
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-06-20 13:38:10 UTC
Please confirm that Walmart isn't invading EVE.