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Dev Blog: New system requirements for EVE

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enterprisePSI
#61 - 2013-06-19 17:30:47 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
enterprisePSI wrote:
OMG You no longer support my 15 year old PC, i hate you ccp, im quitting eve, send me isk, and i will double it.

edit, if high rez texture and tessellation strikes at the same time, im quitting my job. Lol

Another edit, my 5850 is under the recommend specs, yet i can run 2 clients on 2 monitors, @ 1920*1080 everything high. Unless this is about to change.

This is not about to change.



So no HD textures CryP

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©
Rebnok
Dependable Delinquents
Fraternity.
#62 - 2013-06-19 17:34:31 UTC
Will we start to see a benifit from sli or crossfire technology anytime soon? Also thanks for working to make eve shiny
CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#63 - 2013-06-19 17:36:03 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months.
We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future.


So, if you can fly it now, you can fly it after the requirements change, right? :)

Not that that simple explanation made it any easier for the short bus crowd last time around...


Correct Smile

**CCP Vertex  |  Senior Development Manager ** | @CCP_Vertex
Kyodai Samedi
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2013-06-19 17:36:43 UTC
Sir John Halsey wrote:
No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM?
With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :(
Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to.
Nak hak
#65 - 2013-06-19 17:43:00 UTC
Vender gives less than 30 days notice of hardware changes to customers. What kind of professional standard this? Wait a minute. Oh it's...., not mission critical. Nevermind.

Hay, it's better then a 48 hr notice of a old chip set change. ROFL!

Thanks for the notice. I'll tell my friends, and co-workers.

It's about freedom.

Best Regards, Nak hak
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
#66 - 2013-06-19 17:48:15 UTC
Simple Solution. Do not buy mac. " CASE : SOLVED "



Luc Vertis wrote:
Kyodai Samedi wrote:

Huh no. Thanks to the very few existing configurations, the drivers for every single piece of hardware on a Mac box are specific to the exact components in that box. So yes, there isn't a whole lot of flexibility on a Mac system, but the drivers are undoubtedly better tuned on a Mac than they are on a Windows box.


CCP is right on this one. You are probably right for every other driver in a Mac, but not for graphics. Even if there is only a few configurations to support, a GPU is probably the most complex chip you can find in a computer.
Windows drivers are better because there is hundreds of workers paid by the companies that create GPUs to fine-tune performance for the most known apps out there. This is not easy and it doesn't seem to be done for Mac.

“Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.” --  Albert  Einstein  "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means,"
Fleetlord Atvar Boirelle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-06-19 17:50:28 UTC
I'm still waiting a reply for a petition I have for graphic issues, been a few days now reply would be good.
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
#68 - 2013-06-19 17:51:06 UTC
Shoot me now. 2 years ? ..

CCP Explorer wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
We need more radical changes.
Lose Windows XP support, for great justice! Roll
Windows XP is still used by a significant portion of EVE players and I would expect it to possibly take up to two years still for them all to upgrade based on current trends.

“Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.” --  Albert  Einstein  "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means,"
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
#69 - 2013-06-19 17:52:56 UTC
AKA DUMP DirectX9 now :)


Blade dance wrote:
I just want to say to all at CCP Thank you!! Thank you for updating things and thank you for your continually making this game better. I can't wait to see what is in store for the future!

It would be nice to see actual damage to ship's hulls, the effects of what a shield looks like reppeling an opponents weapon's volley all in real time, or a more detailed wreck that accurately depicts a shadow of what that wreck once was ( nike capitol ships do currently) .............................Perhaps in the future we will get there However, In the mean time thanks for getting us one step closer!

“Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.” --  Albert  Einstein  "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means,"
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
#70 - 2013-06-19 17:57:09 UTC
By the time we dump the terrible XP DirectX 9 and get to DirectX 11 we will have walking in stations....I believe I have been waiting since 2006..By that time ive been playing for 2 years...sigh..I still wait...I am a patient man..DirectX10 by 2020 or bust.

BAJRAN BALI wrote:
Does this mean DX11 might be coming? I remember CCP did a demo on DX11 a while back.

“Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.” --  Albert  Einstein  "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means,"
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#71 - 2013-06-19 17:58:08 UTC
Alty MacAlterson wrote:
But when will the launcher be supported under Windows 7?
If you are experiencing problems with the EVE Launcher then please send us a bug report.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Sir John Halsey
#72 - 2013-06-19 18:00:53 UTC
Kyodai Samedi wrote:
Sir John Halsey wrote:
No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM?
With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :(
Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to.


I know. But the "or more" scares me.
And i have an rMBP base model with 8Gb which goes to 100C every time i run EVE so, it probably it will die in flames :)
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2013-06-19 18:04:20 UTC
enterprisePSI wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
enterprisePSI wrote:
OMG You no longer support my 15 year old PC, i hate you ccp, im quitting eve, send me isk, and i will double it.

edit, if high rez texture and tessellation strikes at the same time, im quitting my job. Lol

Another edit, my 5850 is under the recommend specs, yet i can run 2 clients on 2 monitors, @ 1920*1080 everything high. Unless this is about to change.

This is not about to change.
So no HD textures CryP
No final decision either way has been made regarding HD textures.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#74 - 2013-06-19 18:06:15 UTC
Sir John Halsey wrote:
Kyodai Samedi wrote:
Sir John Halsey wrote:
No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM?
With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :(
Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to.


I know. But the "or more" scares me.
And i have an rMBP base model with 8Gb which goes to 100C every time i run EVE so, it probably it will die in flames :)


the good thing about my MBP is that I can also use it as a hair dryer!

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Molly Molou
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2013-06-19 18:06:39 UTC
I can see no discernible difference in graphics quality since 2007. Yet your garbage programming skills have filled the game with so much junk it now requires a supercomputer to play. Instead of upping the hardware requirements and pushing the costs onto the user-base you should send your programmers on a remedial course.

Start by getting rid of that crappy green fog.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#76 - 2013-06-19 18:11:43 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Sir John Halsey wrote:
Kyodai Samedi wrote:
Sir John Halsey wrote:
No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM?
With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :(
Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to.


I know. But the "or more" scares me.
And i have an rMBP base model with 8Gb which goes to 100C every time i run EVE so, it probably it will die in flames :)


the good thing about my MBP is that I can also use it as a hair dryer!


I can use mine to iron shirts while it's running EVE. :P

Gonna need to update the OS to keep doing that, though (still running 10.5.8). Have been using it as a "I'm traveling, need to update skills" machine for the last few years!

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#77 - 2013-06-19 18:23:28 UTC
so when will we get multithreading for the client!? when! T_T!
Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2013-06-19 18:27:49 UTC
I just wanted to put this in here:

WINDOWS 8 SUCKS!

Thank you, bye.

Unforgiven Storm for CSM 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13. (If I don't get in in the next 5 years I will quit trying) :-)
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
#79 - 2013-06-19 18:34:04 UTC
Your Troll is terrible try harder.. off with your head.

" Goes watch more Game of Thrones"


Molly Molou wrote:
I can see no discernible difference in graphics quality since 2007. Yet your garbage programming skills have filled the game with so much junk it now requires a supercomputer to play. Instead of upping the hardware requirements and pushing the costs onto the user-base you should send your programmers on a remedial course.

Start by getting rid of that crappy green fog.

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“Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.” --  Albert  Einstein  "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means,"
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#80 - 2013-06-19 18:35:31 UTC
Regardless of the number of people this will affect, a two to three week advance warning is ridiculous. This is the kind of thing you should give several months lead time. It doesn't mean don't do it, but it does mean give adequate advanced notice so that people can prepare. Buying a new machine or getting involved in upgrades takes at least that long for the non-computer-expert types who play this game.

Considering the lead time you give for ship rebalancing, it's amazing that you wouldn't do it for the machine on which those newly balanced ships are played. This is one of those "someone made a decision somewhere without really talking to everyone" type situations. (and if you're tempted to reply, well we decided X months ago, my reply is, so why didn't you tell anyone?)