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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-06-20 00:53:40 UTC
Nikolai Lachance wrote:
Ciyrine wrote:
How does it work that accelerating before the 1 cycle of mwd is better than accelerating after the mwd activation?

Your acceleration decreases the closer to your max velocity you are. Thus, it will take you less time to gain X speed from 0 than it would from some other positive non-zero velocity.


I didnt realize thanks
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2013-06-20 03:10:52 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:

if a carrier makes 100m/hr then Im assuming BS make 70ish? someone correct me if Im wrong.


Right so these numbers are dependent on where you're ratting, because some rats can be a trivial thing to kill, and then theres things like angels which are a pain in the ass (with the added benefit of loot sucking).

Like take Fountain for example. You can use 2 accounts (you're already spending 1.6 billion on a carrier, you could easily power of two with that money so saying you dont have 2 accounts isn't really a thing) and with a Scimitar and Talos make about 90m/hr in Fountain.

The same for Bloods, or Sansha by moving to a Oracle/Onieros set up, and I'm told that the caldari T3 works about the same on Guristas.

Thats a t3 BC and a t2 logi, which probably could be swapped out for a t1 logi without much problem. Dirt cheap, falling just 10/hr than your 1.6 billion isk target.

The benefits include taking that 1.6 billion and giving yourself a useful second account, while not looking like a derp because you lost a carrier ratting.

But, whatever, ive spent the time trying to show you all the different ways this is a bad idea that you could easily emulate in non bad ways, fly free my dodo bird, fly free.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Shirakus
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-06-20 08:53:07 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
a carrier with 100mn MWD. 1 cycle of MWD then turn off the MWD puts the carrier at 75% velocity so it can warp out at the end of the 10 second MWD cycle. but MWD have negative effect on your capacitor

I was wondering if I used a 100mn AB on the carrier. And ran 1 cycle of the AB. How many more seconds of regular acceleration do you think it would take to hit 75% of max velocity to warp out? Im willing to absorbe a few seconds of extra acceleration to warp out to avoid the MWD capacitor hit


Use a Core X mwd, no cap penalty on those.
The Renner
Canadian Operations
#44 - 2013-06-20 10:02:59 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:




if a carrier makes 100m/hr then Im assuming BS make 70ish? someone correct me if Im wrong.



A high dps bs like a navy geddon or vindicator can make 100+ an hour.
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-06-20 13:28:01 UTC
Ive heard of carriers making 500mil/hr. But the numbers I usually hear and makes me believe its closer to the average is 100m/hr for carriers and 70 for BS
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#46 - 2013-06-20 13:52:58 UTC  |  Edited by: handige harrie
Using dual accounts should net you about 280M/hour using carriers, this should be possible even in the drone regions.

Using faction battleships is about as ******** than using carriers imho. It takes a Mach 7.5 sec to warp out, a carrier can either Jump out, or it takes 10 seconds to warp out using an overheated MWD. Faction battleships have to be faction fit to reach the effective DPS of a sentry carrier, which makes them more expensive to lose even without insurance on the carrier.

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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-06-20 16:34:07 UTC
handige harrie wrote:
Using dual accounts should net you about 280M/hour using carriers, this should be possible even in the drone regions.

Using faction battleships is about as ******** than using carriers imho. It takes a Mach 7.5 sec to warp out, a carrier can either Jump out, or it takes 10 seconds to warp out using an overheated MWD. Faction battleships have to be faction fit to reach the effective DPS of a sentry carrier, which makes them more expensive to lose even without insurance on the carrier.


1) what pushes 2 carriers to 280/hr if one carrier is roughly 100/hr? How do u run ur rat carriers?

2) u said "as *******" than using carriers. Do u not recomend either?
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