EVE General Discussion

It's not the thorn you need to worry about, it's the infection.

nothing to worry about that gatecamp, I will invite bombers bar to blow them all up... they won't use their bombs on random carebears but a gatecamp sounds yummy yummy to me...

That was my point: If we take 20 ships (and again, it is very hard to do less) you will not engage. then it is a loss of time for us.

the only loss of time is the time you spent convincing us that we will not be able to do anything... not sure why you keep doing this over and over again, did somebody tell you you are not able to do anything in life and now you need to act the same way in a game?

you should concentrate on doing things on your own, and not keep telling others what they can not do... its their thing you know, stop hindering people from doing what they want to do

if you would not attac that fleet fine, but do not think all are like you Joe

come on, show me your video what you did after one month in the game, or wait, you just keep talking about others because you did not do **** on your own... so sad

I'm not you man, if you did something better just show it, if not then just shut up

no, we are not pushing to join corps or alliances, we are not pushing for big fleets, we are not restricting fits, we do not let them register on websites with all kind of bullshit, no silly api check, we are just here for the randoms, who jump in want to play, without all those rules and stuff the others have, more like bombers bar who just come together when they want and part again when they want to do other things, more like an open thing...

you are a high sec miner, trader or incursion runner and want to kill some stuff in nullsec, people will know where we are and just join in... and after that you might just go on doing other things...

we just point the place on the map where the horde will be, the rest is free...

SpaceJunkys chat is your starting point, no need for voice software either, some just join with txt chat some use ingamevoice, some do not say anything and are just there with other people, knowing that we all hunt down the same target

there is no, you need to do this or you need to have that... open gameplay only

Has it occurred to you that if it was attempted enough times, things could improve?

Probably not.

I am seeing so much "in the box" thinking here, it's certainly answering the lifelong question I have. That question is "why do people get stuck in the same traffic in the same place at the same time every day?".


In case anybody is wondering (and seeing this thread, everybody has expectations they think are pure truth), the people behind this endeavor are not lock-step in their goals and motivations.
My interest in this is to demonstrate to new players that they do not need to be cannon fodder or renter slaves to enjoy the game. Also, older players who have become entrenched with their mains are encouraged to roll an alt in an unused slot and shoot or get shot.


Yes there are some people involved (and backing this) who have a serious hatred of the goons. Their ISK is still good.


This is mainly about sparing newer players from this soul-sucked corporatist feudalism that the veterans have built. The SP system is even designed to wreck status quo (it's genius really). "how nullsec works" is what really hurts the game. It's time to make it work by throwing a monkey wrench into its gears. And if new players could be shown that they do not have to grind for ISK and gather SP for YEARS (and thus become entrenched in the false paradigms) before this fake holy grail of "going to null", it would be to their benefit. If new players can be shown that they don't get instablobbed the moment they leave highsec, they will roam (and is this not the chief gripe of the lowseccer, that nobody comes out to play with them?).

Nullsec must burn, this aspergian "srs business" world, needs to be shown that this is just a game and we are meant to shoot each other. Russians seem to grasp this most of all, but the rest of the civilized world, living in their boxes and being told what to do, being only "smart enough to do the paperwork and run the machines" as George Carlin would say, are bringing this banal corner-office worship to Eve, and only those who hide in huge alliances spew "Eve life is not real life" but they own NOTHING in game as well as out of it.

All this, will change. It is changing. The scrubs and pubbies are coming.

Which in turn trains the worst pilots -- mouth breathers.

This is also why mouth breathers aren't policy makers...they'll kill everything for the sake of one narrow vision going nowhere.

A healthy community is a community that nurtures all aspects of game play. Which in turn attracts the gamers with varied interests, which in turn offers more humans playing than multiboxers.

So to avoid being "tainted by empire mentality" they join a nullsec empire and take on a whole other kind of taint.

And all you have in the end, is rhetoric, and nothing has really changed.


Asymmetric warfare has broken the backs of empires. A new generation of noobs going out on their own for some PVP is not bound to be friendly to the status quo.


And nobody has to live in nullsec. I have a lock box full of stuff I got in nullsec, when I used wormholes and not recruiters to get there, returning by the same way with a hold full of loot. It's deserted out there. But in promoting that kind of exploration (made easier exponentially thanks to Odyssey) I've come up against the lies of your masters. It's as if people think their ships will automatically explode the moment they leave highsec without being in some nullsec alliance.

That "taint" you speak of, is based on the lies you live by.

I want you to read your post several times Joe.