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Why CCP being blind to spammers in Jita is ruining the Game.

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Desparo
Oberon Incorporated
#1 - 2013-06-18 18:59:56 UTC
Okay this isn't a rant about scammers themselves. We already know 99% of EVE hates them.

Here's the other issues CCP is intentionally ignoring.

-They spam the crap out of Jita local.
-Means its practically useless unless you spend the first 10mins of the day blocking them.
-I'll bet a lot of them are using macro's. If CCP wasn't so busy on a witch hunt for RMT traders they might notice?
-People Hate spammers outside of EVE. Why cccp things we should tolerate them in local is beyond me. It just makes a lot of people mad.
-Jita is full all the time. Means CCP has to dedicate a server to Jita. And means people line up outside the gates because ccp can't figure out how to make a working queue system for people trying to jump in or log in. Maybe they should hire more decent database programmers?
-Jita contracts have gotten to the point that no one trusts them anymore so its very hard to try to sell legit as no one trusts your contract.

Block the spammers in jita local. Simple rule you can't post the same line more then 3x per hour? And ban anyone using a macro.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2013-06-18 23:35:36 UTC
Tell us some more about your obviously vast server and database expertise, not to mention your experience with game design!



Block the spammers in the suggestions forums. Simple rule, you can't post the same ideas as fifty other people. And ban anyone using an alt.
dark heartt
#3 - 2013-06-19 05:50:00 UTC
One word: Amarr.

Thanks for listening.

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JinSanJong
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-29 19:53:12 UTC
guys you may want to troll, but tbh Jita has become just a joke, you will be blocking people for ever..I mean its a little depressing that the game is based on 'obvious' scamming. The stories of heists make eve, not some really poor scamming spam.. its makes the game look pretty trashy tbh.

something does need to be done - remove local anyone ;)
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#5 - 2013-06-29 23:26:02 UTC
Ignore Jita local, problem solved.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-06-30 11:57:55 UTC
OP, are you suggesting any solutions to this alleged problem that you are bringing up?

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-30 15:00:05 UTC
Confirming that Eve Is Dying because there is spam in one easily-ignored chat channel.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-01 00:07:27 UTC
How are you going to find people who are going to fall for your scam contracts without spamming them?

I can has blogging skills!
Adunh Slavy
#9 - 2013-07-01 00:48:21 UTC
dark heartt wrote:
One word: Amarr



Amarr has been getting worse recently.

What we need is, an option to auto block any message that has a link of any kind.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-07-01 16:40:27 UTC
Remove Jita local.Big smile
Gaellia Bonaventure
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-07-09 01:25:16 UTC
dark heartt wrote:
One word: Amarr.

Thanks for listening.


As an Amarrian may I say I support this as well? Big smile

Bring your possibles.
Baroness Vulna
Armada vi Vulnezia
#12 - 2013-07-12 15:15:59 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
guys you may want to troll, but tbh Jita has become just a joke, you will be blocking people for ever..I mean its a little depressing that the game is based on 'obvious' scamming. The stories of heists make eve, not some really poor scamming spam.. its makes the game look pretty trashy tbh.

something does need to be done - remove local anyone ;)



Really? the game is all based on "scamming" have you played the "game" much? There is a WHOLE other universe outside of Jita. The reason Jita is the largest trading hub in almost every MMO is BECAUSE of the rest of the game.

Scamming is part of EVE lure and lore and legend its a SANDBOX that is as close to real world good and evil as a game can get the only thing missing in EVE is prostitution.

For a good time call me ;)

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Zelda Feegle
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-07-13 11:43:41 UTC
Baroness Vulna wrote:
JinSanJong wrote:
guys you may want to troll, but tbh Jita has become just a joke, you will be blocking people for ever..I mean its a little depressing that the game is based on 'obvious' scamming. The stories of heists make eve, not some really poor scamming spam.. its makes the game look pretty trashy tbh.

something does need to be done - remove local anyone ;)



Really? the game is all based on "scamming" have you played the "game" much? There is a WHOLE other universe outside of Jita. The reason Jita is the largest trading hub in almost every MMO is BECAUSE of the rest of the game.

Scamming is part of EVE lure and lore and legend its a SANDBOX that is as close to real world good and evil as a game can get the only thing missing in EVE is prostitution.

For a good time call me ;)



Err I missed something I did not know that every other MMO was infested with JITA. OMG OMG DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA.
Scott Nosferatu
Sons of Sord
#14 - 2013-07-22 10:46:37 UTC
It never ceases to amaze me how any attempt to fix a mechanic which is obviously broken here immediately draws a loud chorus of CCP fanboys who are apparently in favor of never changing anything ever because the game is just perfect as it is, and everything is always working as intended.

The problem is that spam from disposable zero-skill characters carries no penalty whatsoever, and has grown to the point that it makes the use of Jita local for anything other than spamming not worthwhile. Eventually this will spread to all the populous areas, as people increasingly ignore Jita local, making it profitable to spam elsewhere instead. The obvious solution is intelligent, user-configurable spam controls.

Either allow us to block characters under a certain number of skill points (which would mean that we wouldn't see new high-skill spam bots every day, so our block commands would actually work), or allow us to block messages from people already blocked by greater than A% + B of the people in local chat, or ideally allow us to write our own formula using these variables for who we don't want to see.

The existing situation makes reasonable interactions impossible, simply because CCP can't be bothered to allow us to block spam intelligently.
Kyon Rheyne
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-07-29 10:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyon Rheyne
Scott Nosferatu wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how any attempt to fix a mechanic which is obviously broken here immediately draws a loud chorus of CCP fanboys who are apparently in favor of never changing anything ever because the game is just perfect as it is, and everything is always working as intended.


Oh, pal, u probably haven't met cloak-fan boys yet. Those will jump out of their pants sighting any reasonable suggestion to somehow fix/enhance this quite simplistic and unbalanced (in current its state) aspect of the game and will die gripping firmly to the 5-10 years old mechanics they accustomed to.
Andrew Articuli
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-08-01 17:12:43 UTC
one general rule of eve, Keep calm and ignore the asswipes in local
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-08-08 22:38:14 UTC
Kyon Rheyne wrote:
Scott Nosferatu wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how any attempt to fix a mechanic which is obviously broken here immediately draws a loud chorus of CCP fanboys who are apparently in favor of never changing anything ever because the game is just perfect as it is, and everything is always working as intended.


Oh, pal, u probably haven't met cloak-fan boys yet. Those will jump out of their pants sighting any reasonable suggestion to somehow fix/enhance this quite simplistic and unbalanced (in current its state) aspect of the game and will die gripping firmly to the 5-10 years old mechanics they accustomed to.

This is an absolute lie. Also cloaking is fine.

On the subject of Jita, spamming and such. It does make sense to crack down on the bots. If they're not humans manually spamming the stupid contracts they should be booted to reduce the congestion.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#18 - 2013-08-13 08:00:44 UTC
I have more of a problem with new characters being created every day and taking up new pilot names than them spamming a local channel. Use amarr or rens or somewhere.
Andrew Articuli
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-08-17 03:10:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew Articuli
*double post ignore
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#20 - 2013-08-17 07:48:44 UTC
Samillian wrote:
Ignore Jita local, problem solved.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
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