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Making money as a noob.

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Yuna Talie-Kuo
Laborantem Societatis
#21 - 2013-06-18 17:59:18 UTC
Lol. I'm a lazy **** still.

You are doing it right. Most definitely.

If you want to look into passive income, try Plantary Interaction, or perhaps Datacore farming (Although the latter is soon to be removed)

Welcome to EVE Online.

Drop a line if you wanna ask me something :P (Mail that is)

YTK

I don't always do shit. But when I do, it's usually worth doing.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-06-18 18:03:33 UTC
this thread made me all warm and fuzzy inside.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#23 - 2013-06-18 20:09:20 UTC
I like you OP. I like you a lot. I need to start hanging out with people as enthusiastic as you. I'm becoming bitter, and I've only been playing for 10 months Straight

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#24 - 2013-06-19 01:59:25 UTC
People nag and complain because they want to be in a pirate faction battleship after a week like in other games. Maybe the temptation that plexing offers encourages that view and sort of gameplay, don't know... But If you play the game as intended (players shouldn't even think about the bigger ships in the first month of play) it works like a charm and you shouldn't have any money problems. You are further proof of that...

Anyway, sound like you are having fun, keep it up o/

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Hendelse
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-06-19 11:03:25 UTC
I love this post!

Can we be friends?

Also, please keep us updated on your ongoing adventure as a new player :P
Cyberin
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-06-19 11:59:36 UTC
So glad to see newer players figuring things out and having fun and making isk!

I do have one comment about something though...do your research on the isk/lp ratio...faction blueprints are far from the most profitable thing you can get from lp :)...you could have made a LOT more than 80mil isk from 55K LP...more than double actually.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-06-20 07:25:42 UTC
Well I'm a new player and I have to say I'm having a lot less success.

level 1 secuirty missions only pay so much so any average mission would probadly pay overall 100000 ISK.

Buying & selling doesn't seem to be worth it as all buyers are buying at less than local sellers.

In truth mining seems to be my most profitable activity, take my vulture to a 0.6 system with some drone for cover, find some scordite and mine until my ore hold is full. Then I go reprocess it and sell it. Can make about 1m ISK an hour.

Am learning to get a mining barge to increase speed and hold size.
Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#28 - 2013-06-20 08:31:47 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Well I'm a new player and I have to say I'm having a lot less success.

level 1 secuirty missions only pay so much so any average mission would probadly pay overall 100000 ISK.

Buying & selling doesn't seem to be worth it as all buyers are buying at less than local sellers.

In truth mining seems to be my most profitable activity, take my vulture to a 0.6 system with some drone for cover, find some scordite and mine until my ore hold is full. Then I go reprocess it and sell it. Can make about 1m ISK an hour.

Am learning to get a mining barge to increase speed and hold size.


Semi true.


Issue is that in the end mining pays less ISK/hour if you compare it to level 4 missions.

Level 1s are only there to kick start you mission living...you arent stuck with them.
Mining itself...well you can max out you gain quite fast and after that it will be a just above avg in payments compared to other things.

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-06-20 08:37:05 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:

Buying & selling doesn't seem to be worth it as all buyers are buying at less than local sellers.

In truth mining seems to be my most profitable activity, take my vulture to a 0.6 system with some drone for cover, find some scordite and mine until my ore hold is full. Then I go reprocess it and sell it. Can make about 1m ISK an hour.

Am learning to get a mining barge to increase speed and hold size.



yes that's the point of trading you buy lower than you sell or you don't make money..


don't do mining on your first character you will regret it very quickly unless you like the style of play (i can't really see how you could).

Art of Explosions
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-06-20 09:52:43 UTC
a quick question to the OP or well any1 who c an answer it really.

How much did FW affect ur standings with the enemy faction?

I'm really intersted in making some good isk through FW but i dont really want to hurt my standings too badly with any faction (except pirate factions).

I'd prolly do a few missions here and there if thats what they are called in FW then quit FW and raise my standings with the 'enemy' faction through SOE epic arc.

rinse and repeat.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-06-20 10:11:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Otichoda
Ace Menda wrote:


Level 1s are only there to kick start you mission living...you arent stuck with them.


But I understand that level 2 or above can only really be done by a cruiser and above. And my cruiser has just been killed by a player in lowsec space and I'm relucant to risk the replacement that is going to almost bankrupt me.
Charlie Fickle
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-06-20 10:28:16 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
How much did FW affect ur standings with the enemy faction?

I'm really intersted in making some good isk through FW but i dont really want to hurt my standings too badly with any faction (except pirate factions).

I've joined Faction Warfare twice now, each time for one evening and ran 3 or 4 plexes while looking for PvP. The second time wasn't as successful as the first in that I lost 3 ships without even coming close to a kill. But I still ended the evening with enough LP to buy another Vexor Navy Issue BPC, which worked so well last time, I decided to do it again.

Each time I joined the Gallente Militia (On my 10 day old main, not this char). I've got Diplomacy III and Connections III trained. Currently I have 2.5 derived standing with Gallante and 0.37 derived standing with Caldari. Thus it hasn't ruined my Caldari standing too bad atm.

It has occurred to me that next time I should join the Caldari Militia to balance things out and in fact that would be better for me on a number of counts. Closer to Jita and I'm now trying out RvB which is located in Caldari space. Initially I had thought that a Gallante character could only join the Gallante militia, but it turns out that you just need a positive derived standing and you can join any militia. So when I next need some cash that is what I intend to do.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-06-20 10:34:37 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Ace Menda wrote:


Level 1s are only there to kick start you mission living...you arent stuck with them.


But I understand that level 2 or above can only really be done by a cruiser and above. And my cruiser has just been killed by a player in lowsec space and I'm relucant to risk the replacement that is going to almost bankrupt me.


you can do level 2s in a well-fitted destroyer

also why are you missioning in low sec? If you want to mission in low sec you need to learn how to use d-scan and watch local like a hawk.

Art of Explosions
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-06-20 10:44:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Otichoda
Tsukino Stareine wrote:


also why are you missioning in low sec? If you want to mission in low sec you need to learn how to use d-scan and watch local like a hawk.


I wasn't

I'd found some cosmic anomaly combat sites that where too powerful for my scanning destroyer so I got my cruiser to take them out. But the player jumped me as I was leaving the gate. Fleed to an asteroid belt to escape but he followed me there and jammed my warp drive. Was able to see off a crusier he called up in support but he keep hitting me with a low firing but high power weapon. Ultimately ran my capacitor out with trying to keep my shields and armour up while my light missiles couldn't take down his battleship armour quickly enough.

Wasn't podded but he did fire off a few shots. Added a 100000 ISK bounty to his 299m one. And I'm still bitter about losing the craft.
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2013-06-20 10:47:03 UTC  |  Edited by: lollerwaffle
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Well I'm a new player and I have to say I'm having a lot less success.

level 1 secuirty missions only pay so much so any average mission would probadly pay overall 100000 ISK.

Buying & selling doesn't seem to be worth it as all buyers are buying at less than local sellers.

In truth mining seems to be my most profitable activity, take my vulture to a 0.6 system with some drone for cover, find some scordite and mine until my ore hold is full. Then I go reprocess it and sell it. Can make about 1m ISK an hour.

Am learning to get a mining barge to increase speed and hold size.

Your problem: You went straight into the solo gameplay mode as opposed to the OP, opting for boring and low fun activities such as mining and mission running.

The cause: You're still stuck in structured MMO mode, where to progress you do 'quests' (missions) or farm resources (mining). Unlearn those bad habits, think of something you actually enjoy doing and find out if you can make money doing said thing.

Your solution: Read what the OP has done. Try to emulate that if you can't think of something different to what the OP has done.

How to do it: Contact the OP, who knows he/she/it may be nice enough to give you a few tips or show you how to do it properly Lol

EDIT: STOP GRINDING FOR YOUR ISK IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T ENJOY DOING
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-06-20 10:49:53 UTC
this is what will happen if you go into low sec unprepared.

warping to an asteroid belt at 0 was your second mistake and understandable for a new player since all you can think about is getting away.

Do a little research next time and you will be ok. In the meantime if you can afford a cruiser to run level 2 missions in high security space to get some money back it's fairly safe relative to low sec, just make sure you're careful in missions to not get blown up by NPCs

Art of Explosions
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-06-20 10:51:39 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:


also why are you missioning in low sec? If you want to mission in low sec you need to learn how to use d-scan and watch local like a hawk.


I wasn't

I'd found some cosmic anomaly combat sites that where too powerful for my scanning destroyer so I got my cruiser to take them out. But the player jumped me as I was leaving the gate. Fleed to an asteroid belt to escape but he followed me there and jammed my warp drive. Was able to see off a crusier he called up in support but he keep hitting me with a low firing but high power weapon. Ultimately ran my capacitor out with trying to keep my shields and armour up while my light missiles couldn't take down his battleship armour quickly enough.

Wasn't podded but he did fire off a few shots. Added a 100000 ISK bounty to his 299m one. And I'm still bitter about losing the craft.


1. Learn to use the Dscan + local. They are your best friends in lowsec
2. Learn to fit your ships. Unfortunately, optimal PVE ships+fittings are horribad at PVP and most likely vice versa. Don't dual tank.
3. If you can't afford to lose it (emotionally), don't undock in it.
Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#38 - 2013-06-20 11:22:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Menda
lollerwaffle wrote:
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:


also why are you missioning in low sec? If you want to mission in low sec you need to learn how to use d-scan and watch local like a hawk.


I wasn't

I'd found some cosmic anomaly combat sites that where too powerful for my scanning destroyer so I got my cruiser to take them out. But the player jumped me as I was leaving the gate. Fleed to an asteroid belt to escape but he followed me there and jammed my warp drive. Was able to see off a crusier he called up in support but he keep hitting me with a low firing but high power weapon. Ultimately ran my capacitor out with trying to keep my shields and armour up while my light missiles couldn't take down his battleship armour quickly enough.

Wasn't podded but he did fire off a few shots. Added a 100000 ISK bounty to his 299m one. And I'm still bitter about losing the craft.


1. Learn to use the Dscan + local. They are your best friends in lowsec
2. Learn to fit your ships. Unfortunately, optimal PVE ships+fittings are horribad at PVP and most likely vice versa. Don't dual tank.
3. If you can't afford to lose it (emotionally), don't undock in it.


Those 3.

4. He laughed about that bounty as it means nothing to people.


EDIT:


Just looked up your loss on battleclinic.

1.) You were dual tanking...that is BAD.

2.) It was NOT a battleship that killed you. It was a T3 cruiser.

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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#39 - 2013-06-20 12:12:51 UTC
Paul Otichoda wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:


also why are you missioning in low sec? If you want to mission in low sec you need to learn how to use d-scan and watch local like a hawk.



And I'm still bitter about losing the craft.


Why is it always the small losses that enrage people? I guess the only question would be...why are you bitter about it? You made mistakes and took your lumps. If you look at that as an unbearable blow rather than a learning experience I would play something else that has no loss penalty.
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-06-20 12:34:18 UTC
Ace Menda wrote:


Just looked up your loss on battleclinic.

1.) You were dual tanking...that is BAD.

2.) It was NOT a battleship that killed you. It was a T3 cruiser.



1.Then what should I have have fitted?

2.Ok I got that wrong, my mistake.