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They had to force people to use it or it was worthless as a Beta test for WoD

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after all... see sig

Yes, this is such a new, innovative thread after all

4/10, you managed to sound convincing til this post.

Regarding your new sig...



If this is supposedly an employee talking (in this completely unsubstantiated opinion piece) it actually isn't their fault. They did as they were told to the best of their ability.

To be honest, CCP does have (and always has had) an awesome vision for EVE. They just often have problems delivering that vision to us in a way that doesn't **** us off.

As to the rest, there was a lot of very justifiable upset directed at CCP due to the events surrounding the Incarna release. However, I strongly felt at the time (and still do) that there was a tremendous amount of manipulation of the EVE player base and the press going on during that time.

Now I realize that pride will allow very few people to even consider that they were maneuvered into taking actions (such as account closure and mass protests) that they would not normally have done under the same circumstances. I also realize that my point of view will not be a popular one for those same reasons. But please remember that meta-gaming and manipulation is an art form in EVE... one practiced by the formidable collection of forum trolls we have just as adroitly as it is practiced by the larger power groups in game.

CCP in fact did foolishly set the stage for this to happen. We became a loaded weapon pointed at them, but I think if left to our own devices (even under these circumstances) most of us would have stopped short of pulling the trigger. I think we were "given" more than a little help in that regard.

Don't know if you're trolling me with your opening statement (All very pretty.....) pertaining to my previous post. Not that it makes any difference.

As I said earlier, no need to bring up CCP's past business decisions and financial problems. That info is well known and beyond our control.

Sometimes a wall of text is needed to convey personal opinion and various viewpoints about multiple subjects.

I agree that we as a community need to help support CCP, but doing massive amounts of forum rage posting encouraging subscription cancellations isn't the way to do it. That only makes the problem worse and may even help push CCP into claiming bankruptcy which could cause the company, the game and these forums to be dissolved.

From the very beginning of Eve Online, each expansion and patch delivered content that was buggy, incomplete and rushed. Sometimes making previous content unbalanced and or obsolete. Despite that, Eve Online has grown over the years with more and more content being added. Right now every single aspect of this game is buggy and half finished but guess what, you can still play the game.

Personal View - I would rather have CCP fix and complete all existing game content, including Incarna, before adding any more new content, even if it takes a few years to do that.

Reality Check - If there were no more new content expansions ever added to the game again, I would still continue playing this game, even with all of it's half finished, buggy game content.

Well, at least until I found a better mmo Sci-Fi simulation.

And that's the point, even with all of it's faults and problems, Eve Online is still the greatest mmo Sci-Fi simulation available.





Calling me a carebear proves that you know nothing at all. Also tells me you're part of the problem that plagues this great game.

Ahhh, thanks for clarifying that.

And if you have indeed trolled me before, I hope it was most excellent for you.


Stereotyping someone and placing them into a specific group doesn't mean that person has no knowledge about various other groups.

High sec, Low sec, Null sec, W-space, Alliance Sov, Infrastructure Upgrades, Corporate, WarDec, Fleet Mechanics, Bounty System, PoS, PvP, PvE, FW, PI, Incursions, Probing, Logistics, Special Ops, Ship Balance, Market, Contracts, Local and Personal Chat Channels, User Interface, Various Careers, etc. The list goes on and on. They are all interconnected and affect each other.

And let's not forget LAG.

As I said before, every single aspect of content placed in this game has issues which are all equally important and need to be corrected. Doesn't matter if you're a new inexperienced player or an old experienced player, your group association, the career activity you indulge in or even your location within this game, everyone is affected.

Yes I agree, the community needs to show and help support CCP at this time by being positive. Replying in threads like this probably isn't helping.



We all know why CCP is trying to attract new players to the game along with keeping older players subscribed. The question is how to accomplish that and keep this game alive and evolving without removing or abandoning any current content or Eve related projects?

But that question is going off-topic so I'll close with this.



Thanks, guess I'll take that as a compliment, even if it does sound condescending.

It was me.

Deal with it nerd.

God, I wish people like you would learn reading comprehension. How about you try reading it again.



Later after that I posted a couple of scenarios. The possibility's are endless. Try opening up your mind and thinking outside the box. By the way, I would much rather have all existing content be fixed and balanced before any more new content for FiS is added. But if you had continued reading the entire thread you would have seen that.


But hey, it doesn't matter anyway since people like you just confirm the second statement in that reply.

The point isn't stereotyping, its pointing out areas of experience. Everything is interconnected, but we all use it in different ways, and there are mechanics that exist ONLY in nullsec. Specifically, sov. There are also mechanics that are mostly of concern in null, due to the fact that we use them more than any other single group. POSes.

I'm not saying that no one else uses poses, but as a mechanic, they don't ruin peoples lives in highsec the way they do in null. The problems with sov are, to me, one of the biggest issues with the game right now, and sov is one of the major selling points of the game.

Just as I theoretically know very little about mission running, or mining fleets, and therefor do not render opinions or think my opinion should matter on any nerf, you, because of your areas of experience, do not know how some mechanics work in the hands of people like me.

I do think that everyone should be able to pipe up and give forth their ideas to be looked at and debated, but that doesn't mean that you are right, or understand the issues, it just means that you might come across a good idea.


I think it can help new guys realize that doom and gloom aren't everything to eve, that we still have hope.


I posted an idea regarding a redistribution of talent in CCP in another thread, I'm sure it will get skipped over, but it answers your question. short version: dedicated iteration team like BFF and gridlock are dedicated to their areas.


Apologies... I'm apparently good at condescending

I meant that as one of the few people who has the pull to be able to direct carebears into forming a community, since there really isn't one at large. Before any of these ideas people have about breaking nulls hold on CSM/the game/highsec/tear harvesting those who oppose it have to actually get together into a group. I've seen quite a few starting lately, and that is where the problem is. There can be only 1

Edit: I hate you, this is my largest wall of text to date.