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What are you doing to make your ISK?
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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#61 - 2013-06-18 17:56:27 UTC
BinaryData wrote:
I used to do industry in wormholes, and sell in Jita, but with the new change, **** that.




CCP, F*CK YOU.



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Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2013-06-18 17:58:03 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Two alts are into PI, sell the stuff and buy Moongoo for it. Zimmy then uses the moongoo to build t2 weapons and ammo that the alts then sell on the markets.
I think the concept works pretty fine, but since I am lazy, I have optimized the whole system for minimum effort.
I could earn much more if I invested more time into this little network, but since frigs and cruisers are cheap I don't need much money anyway.


Then Zimmy gets frigs and cruisers blown up by Blue Republic lol just joking.

how much time you think you put in to this process?
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#63 - 2013-06-18 18:03:13 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Whatever occurs to me at the moment. Mostly I wake up Sleepers, then put them back to bed... Perminantly.
But I do a bit of industrial work, a bit of mining (when I'm really feeling maso), run a few missions, maybe interact with a planet or two, farm some data cores, invent some BPCs, do a bit of exploring. Sometimes, I even try to blow up other players.

Basically, I do whatever.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-06-18 18:06:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Baren wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Two alts are into PI, sell the stuff and buy Moongoo for it. Zimmy then uses the moongoo to build t2 weapons and ammo that the alts then sell on the markets.
I think the concept works pretty fine, but since I am lazy, I have optimized the whole system for minimum effort.
I could earn much more if I invested more time into this little network, but since frigs and cruisers are cheap I don't need much money anyway.


Then Zimmy gets frigs and cruisers blown up by Blue Republic lol just joking.

how much time you think you put in to this process?


About 20-30 minutes every second day caring for my planets (highsec, everything else would be :effort:).
Datacores from my R&D agents get collected about twice a year, and it's always annoying.
Invention doesn't take much time (a few clicks only).
Building the stuff is also hardly any effort- I check my hangar about once every one or two months to see if there are still enough minerals and moongoo. This "shopping list" is about the most time consuming process, takes about one or two hours every time to count what I have and calculate what I need.

Oh, and selling the t2 modules in RvB land is a bad idea- too many douches that instantly start 0.01 Isk pricewars.

edit: oh, and yes, Blue Republic blows up a lot of my ships- hence the need for isks. Blink

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2013-06-18 18:07:04 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Whatever occurs to me at the moment. Mostly, I wake up Sleepers them put them back to bed... Perminantly.
But I do a bit of industrial work, a bit of mining (when I'm really feeling maso), run a few missions, maybe interact with a planet or two, farm some data cores, invent some BPCs, do a bit of exploring. Sometimes, I even try to blow up other players.

Basically, I do whatever.



Not sure if has carebear LvL V?
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#66 - 2013-06-18 18:15:21 UTC  |  Edited by: silens vesica
Baren wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Whatever occurs to me at the moment. Mostly, I wake up Sleepers them put them back to bed... Perminantly.
But I do a bit of industrial work, a bit of mining (when I'm really feeling maso), run a few missions, maybe interact with a planet or two, farm some data cores, invent some BPCs, do a bit of exploring. Sometimes, I even try to blow up other players.

Basically, I do whatever.



Not sure if has carebear LvL V?
More like Beatnik Lvl V.

I'm perfectly happy to blow someone up - Or attempt to - But *usually* only when they irritate me, usually by farming in my WH space. Not really caring if I succeed in a kill, either - So long as they depart in a hurry, I'm good.

On a differnt 'Toon, I'm learning how to use Catalysts to best effect. Early days yet, but the initial results look promising.

On a third, I joyride through Nul, irritating the locals.

It's all about doing what pleases me, and to hell with everyone elses' agendae.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#67 - 2013-06-18 18:42:33 UTC
Baren wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Baren wrote:


I like to have fun playing even so mining for 8 hours a day just isnt for me. I love PvP so if I can make isk shooting stuff i`m all for it.
I ratt sanctums in 0.0 space in my thanny I can make around 100mil/hour on a good day.
Allows me to shoot stuff in my carrier. also allows me to jump back to HQ if some defence fleet is needed.

0.0 Carrier ratting
Steps are as follows:
-I just jump into a good system.
-scan
- warp to the first sanctum or forsaken hub I find
- let isk poor in, just make sure im align to warp out at the first sign or trouble.
Some times you`ll get a officer spawn. nice faction mods inside too


Hope we can get a good list going Here. Help the noobs out and eachother.



The problem is you and with you most eve players look at isk/hour from an active stance.This is the only reason why a decent trader will allways outdo your isk/hour in a 23/7 timeframe.



Very true me being a PvPer Im not really doing things in the market tading or PI where isk is made when im logged off.
Im assure make trading requires a good amount oh knownledge of the markets and hubs, supply and demand and keeping up to date.... For me it seems like alot of work when all my effort goes into bettering myself in PvP, tactics, and politics

Trading does show alot of promise tho.. its just the fun factor of trading can`t compare with that of one where you shoot stuff or explore but thats all personal preference i guess



Trust me trade can be verry much fun.Just don't do it all the time and it takes time to enjoy it.In my 9 years eve i have probably done 2 years total of trade , all the rest goes to other stuff like nullsec/lowsec/pvp/pve/exploring.I usually do 6 months trade then switch for 6 to 12 months to something else the last years.My first 4 to 5 years in eve i mostly did null pve and missions in empire to make isk.Now i only do 7/10 to 10/10 plexes for fun every now and then and never mission because once you are used to a certain''possible income'' it'becomes no fun to work more for less gains.That is where the fun part in trade lies , once you got the hang of it and build up a decent wallet even 15 minutes a day is enough to pay for anything you want wich means so much time left to do pvp or something else you enjoy 100%.

Yes trade is boring and may seem hard to catch on at the start wich is the only reason why there is so little of ''our breed'' because most give up after a few months, but once you bite through that sour layer then trust me the sweetness is SO good.

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Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#68 - 2013-06-18 19:27:14 UTC
Baren wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Whatever occurs to me at the moment. Mostly, I wake up Sleepers them put them back to bed... Perminantly.
But I do a bit of industrial work, a bit of mining (when I'm really feeling maso), run a few missions, maybe interact with a planet or two, farm some data cores, invent some BPCs, do a bit of exploring. Sometimes, I even try to blow up other players.

Basically, I do whatever.



Not sure if has carebear LvL V?


Not sure if supporting your pvp with ships....-_-

Also,I'm more of a do what ever type player too. Just go with the, I'm nigh unerfable.

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sXyphos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-06-18 19:46:01 UTC
Exploration, i swear there are way more people doing 4/10's than there were before but i manage to make some isk although i'm incredibly unlucky, only like 20% of the sites contain anything worthwhile Shocked
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#70 - 2013-06-18 19:54:36 UTC
sXyphos wrote:
Exploration, i swear there are way more people doing 4/10's than there were before but i manage to make some isk although i'm incredibly unlucky, only like 20% of the sites contain anything worthwhile Shocked

That sounds pretty normal to me, especially if you explore in Caldari space. They have the pricey loot, but the selection is limited to only a few items. In other areas the good drops aren't worth as much, but there are more drop items and therefore you get left empty handed less often.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#71 - 2013-06-18 19:59:27 UTC
Baren wrote:


So my question how are you making you isk?
and what is the easy Isk/hour way.


Market trading in short, medium, and long term trends is, by far, the most ISK/hr of playtime you can do. I am about to wrap up a long term trade started last fall for a 52% profit of 4.5 bil ISK for about 5 hours of total time on task. That is just shy of 1bil/hr.

And that is not the only trade I have going.
Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2013-06-18 20:19:52 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
1) cut the losses
2) keep the profits running


So you are a carebear? right?
Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2013-06-18 20:23:35 UTC
Great stuff guys keep em comming:


So for Ive seen that alot of people are

Doing exploration:

And trading:


Incursions and missioning hasnt even been mentioned at all.


do people really make that much running 4/10s or at what point does exploration become a bread winner
Ckra Trald
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-06-18 20:42:22 UTC
draws stuff in paint and sell for 10mil isk each

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Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2013-06-18 21:14:13 UTC
Baren wrote:
Great stuff guys keep em comming:


So for Ive seen that alot of people are

Doing exploration:

And trading:


Incursions and missioning hasnt even been mentioned at all.


do people really make that much running 4/10s or at what point does exploration become a bread winner


over night i do from 1 - 2 billion from nullsec exploration sometimes, incursions does allot to but it take allot of prep, unlike exploration..... now missions?.. thats nothing right?.... i though missions did close to nothing and it needs you to be a bot to even get close to something reasonable
Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2013-06-18 21:20:13 UTC
Solutio Letum wrote:
Baren wrote:
Great stuff guys keep em comming:


So for Ive seen that alot of people are

Doing exploration:

And trading:


Incursions and missioning hasnt even been mentioned at all.


do people really make that much running 4/10s or at what point does exploration become a bread winner


over night i do from 1 - 2 billion from nullsec exploration sometimes, incursions does allot to but it take allot of prep, unlike exploration..... now missions?.. thats nothing right?.... i though missions did close to nothing and it needs you to be a bot to even get close to something reasonable



Looks like 0.0 Exploration is in the lead with multiple people reporting in.
Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2013-06-19 21:13:02 UTC
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flakeys
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-06-19 21:49:43 UTC
Baren wrote:
Solutio Letum wrote:
Baren wrote:
Great stuff guys keep em comming:


So for Ive seen that alot of people are

Doing exploration:

And trading:


Incursions and missioning hasnt even been mentioned at all.


do people really make that much running 4/10s or at what point does exploration become a bread winner


over night i do from 1 - 2 billion from nullsec exploration sometimes, incursions does allot to but it take allot of prep, unlike exploration..... now missions?.. thats nothing right?.... i though missions did close to nothing and it needs you to be a bot to even get close to something reasonable



Looks like 0.0 Exploration is in the lead with multiple people reporting in.



You gotta be Lucky there.One day you can get a sig with kewl loot worth a few B .. the next days either no good sigs or the loot is totally crap.

As an example i logged in tonight to have an 8/10 in the 2nd system i scanned , done within the hour solo with a 600M total lootdrop.Tomorrow i could scan 8 systems before i get a good site and then after doing it i might have spend 2 to 3 hours for 100m bounty and loot not worth 10 M.

And depending on your null system you could also be interupted by neuts making you either loose a lot of time finishing it or making it completely unfinishable.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Khira Kitamatsu
#79 - 2013-06-19 21:57:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu
Stopped mining, not ice mind you, just mining in general - doesn't pay anything like it should. Now we run missions, salvage and exploration. To bad that mining just can't compete with the other means of making ISK in the game like it use to. Mining use to be something I did just to relax and have fun chatting while making ISK. ::sigh:: Not any more though.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#80 - 2013-06-19 22:00:47 UTC
I take advantage of that universal constant known as "Human Nature". No coding, no patches, no updates needed. It's always part of the game.

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