EVE General Discussion

Who knows when we might get an updated version? I certainly don't know - But I *DO* know that if we waste time trying to reverse a made-and-comitted decision, we'll get nothing. And I know that if we *don't* take steps towards focussing CCP's attention, we'll again get nothing.

So - Don't try to hold back the tide with a sand shovel. Instead, use that shovel to dig a channel to direct where the tide goes. It ain' much, but it's better than complete futility.

but your complaining that you want the old launcher back
because the new launcher does not do this

neither did the old launcher
it makes your argument pointless and stupid

I dislike the new launcher because it takes me slightly longer when I want to log into multiple accounts but, I'll get over it.

Yeah but that isn't really the launcher failing at what is was meant to do.

In the future it'll be built to cater to a case just like yours with multiple account login on the launcher main page (or something to that effect)

And that is where I can agree in it's failure.

Otherwise I'm liking it. Hell, last few bug fix patches we downloaded and installed before I even got my 16 character password typed in :D

And since I'm using a same-account alt a bit more for my tutorial live streams it's be SOOOO convenient to swap characters.

I can only sympathize, not empathize with you multi-boxers so all I can say is that it's coming Soon(tm).

As for the question, "Why did they push this out now?"

Well they needed to get it live to really stress it and catch all the bugs a things they didn't catch before. And they needed it to start doing SSO. SSO was important because they're using it to provide better integration with steam.

So, at the root of it all it was likely a business decision more than a functional one. Their highest priority business-wise was to get SSO working an live. The convenience features can be done later but SSO was a vital thing. It just so happened that being able to do quick character swapping from rebooting the client from the already logged in launcher kinda fell out of it.

Translation: CCP thought it was good business to offload bad beta-grade software on its customers.

Again.

The launcher and its tie-in to the CREST API being broken like day 2 make it more functionally like alpha-grade software, at best.

The first time it went down was due to a ddos attack on the login server, the second time was due to the CREST API connection which is actually more tied to DUST.
Neither occurance had anything to do with the launcher itself failing.

Agreed on all counts - especially #1 - the launcher needs a much smaller footprint and not be bloated in terms of size and CPU use.

Again, to reiterate earlier posts:

If they theme the character selection screen and make it more robust like I linked earlier in the thread, this could really help those who miss the old login screen for it's nostalgia factor.

They could obviously further improve the launcher in handling multiple accounts, screens and clients with greater functionality, as well as give it a lot of teeth in streamlining logoffs and account/character switching. So much could be done.

But if anybody here knows CCP, simply reversing what they've done is not going to happen. No, seriously. You can stop them from going further forward, but you can't get them to go backward unless it kills the server ... and then they'd only work harder to make ti work.

Better to come up with legitimate suggestions and helpful advice, because CCP can be real stubborn about these things. And I have a sneaking suspicion that there's more behind the launcher than improved patching and 'ooh, new code'. We'll probably only find that out after this CSM moves on and certain NDA expire.

launcher is fine L2P