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No more Incarna? Well then

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-10-23 00:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
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Regarding Incarna, we were expecting to have the other Captain's Quarters by now, along with the first steps towards station Establishments. Is there still a development roadmap for Incarna?

Hilmar Pétursson: We're releasing the racial variants of the Captain's Quarters this year and that's mainly because we had that work completed. It also includes some optimisations and other fixes. I think the community has spoken loud and clear that they want more classical Eve features to come out, and that's the priority for us. Incarna is there, and we might pick it up at some point later down the line, but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to."


I quit 2 years ago because i was sick of paying for a game where i was considered a spaceship instead of a person. the fanfest LIVE DEMO that i got to play a year before i 1st quit was what made me want to play eve again in the future when it was finish. It's also what made over a dozen of my friends interested in playing eve.

That said the last expansion was a disaster. Not only has factional warfare, PI, and 0.0 sov warfare been ignored, but the feature I waited for THREE YEARS, was a single room, that broke the immersion of docking with stations. And it got rid of my ship spinning.

All that said, the announcement of establishments not even being on the road map anymore, not even for next summer at least, means I will just have to once again, leave for a year or 2 while eve has ANOTHER UNFINISHED FEATURE IN IT

Wether it's in space, or walking features, my issue, and always will be, feature abandonment.

So on one hand, bravo CCP, your winter expansion is going to handle almost everything that lead me to quit in the 1st place. you are finally not forgetting features you put in the game years ago. But if Incarna becomes just another abandoned feature, and next summer is some new random feature, then I'm done with your game full of abandoned content.

And I know I'm not alone in feeling this way. I'm just more vocal. Even if it's only 20-30% of people who feel the same way, thats a good chuck of playerbase.

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Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-10-23 00:12:17 UTC
Yea it sucks, but thats the way Goons, I mean, Democracy works.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

Tristan North
The Scope
#3 - 2011-10-23 00:12:34 UTC
+1
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#4 - 2011-10-23 00:12:45 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
I quite 2 years ago because i was sick of paying for a game where i was considered a spaceship instead of a person.

You quit an internet spaceship game because you didn't like being a spaceship?
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-10-23 00:13:05 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
So on one hand, barvo CCP

Alara IonStorm
#6 - 2011-10-23 00:14:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
DarkAegix wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
barvo CCP


I am gonna assume Bravo then agree.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-23 00:14:56 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
Yea it sucks, but thats the way Goons, I mean, Democracy works.



See I'm ok with walking in stations being put off untill all current features are finished. I'm just not ok with walking in station being ONE OF THOSE features. So winter would be finishing the in space features that were abandoned. Then the summer would be establishments.

With establishments, in my eyes, eve would be feature complete. Then just years of new spaceships, tech 3-4 junk, and art. Eve would be ****ing perfect.

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Katsumi Kaminari
#8 - 2011-10-23 00:15:14 UTC
Isn't this just a repost of three other similar threads going on right now? Well I got my 2 cents in, let the tears and flamethrowers commence. Open fire boys! Pirate

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Alara IonStorm
#9 - 2011-10-23 00:18:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
MotherMoon wrote:

With establishments, in my eyes, eve would be feature complete. Then just years of new spaceships, tech 3-4 junk, and art. Eve would be ****ing perfect.

I am sure they will release some form of it but let the dust settle on what we are hoping is the most awesome expansion ever.

Who knows with everything fixed they could squeak it by in the Summer or Winter Expansion.

Then we can all fake Drink to how awesome Blasters are.
Mica Swanhaven
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-23 00:18:34 UTC
Alexandra Delarge wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
I quite 2 years ago because i was sick of paying for a game where i was considered a spaceship instead of a person.

You quit an internet spaceship game because you didn't like being a spaceship?


FreeLancer
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-10-23 00:23:29 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:

With establishments, in my eyes, eve would be feature complete. Then just years of new spaceships, tech 3-4 junk, and art. Eve would be ****ing perfect.

I am sure they will release some form of it but let the dust settle on what we are hoping is the most awesome expansion ever.

Who knows with everything fixed they could squeak it by in the Summer or Winter Expansion.

Then we can all fake Drink to how awesome Blasters are.


True that. This is ramping up to be the best expansion to date. we'll see if they deliver on it. I just don't like seeing anything about abandoning features again. It wasn't just walking in station that got me to quit. it was everything that had to do with feature abandonment. 5th Tech 3 pieces anyone?

Even Trinity isn't finished yet. When Apocrypha was released, a dev said that new nebula were almost finished, and might even make it into the expansion. That was 3 years ago, get on with it CCP, pick a direct "like redo all of eve graphically" and then DO IT. Don't make us wait 4 years for your features to be finished. OMG i can't believe how long ago trinity was and we're not done with it yet O.O

I still remember the dev blog saying planets and asteroids would come very soon after that expansion.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#12 - 2011-10-23 00:27:41 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
Yea it sucks, but thats the way Goons, I mean, Democracy works.



See I'm ok with walking in stations being put off untill all current features are finished. I'm just not ok with walking in station being ONE OF THOSE features. So winter would be finishing the in space features that were abandoned. Then the summer would be establishments.

With establishments, in my eyes, eve would be feature complete. Then just years of new spaceships, tech 3-4 junk, and art. Eve would be ****ing perfect.


WiS is put on hold to continue development on the core aspects of the game. Once they get FiS for the better part situated then they will continue working on WiS. Eve has pretty much suffered for the last 2 years because of development of WiS, completing establishments will not make Eve perfect and would not make Eve complete. WiS is fluff, it has no real purpose and is just a RP/Sidegame. It should be put on hold and they made the right decision.

If you came back to Eve because of WiS or joined Eve because of WiS then I don't think Eve was the game for you in the first place.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

KrakizBad
Section 8.
#13 - 2011-10-23 00:28:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
You joined an internet spaceships game and got angry that it was about internet spaceships?


Not empty cross-thread posting.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#14 - 2011-10-23 00:29:21 UTC
You are mad because the company that made an internet spaceship games is making more internet spaceships.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-10-23 00:30:45 UTC
I don't like getting out of my spaceship. Floating naked in goo feels good Big smile

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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#16 - 2011-10-23 00:34:52 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
You are mad because the company that made an internet spaceship games is making more internet spaceships.


Nah, keep protests up. That is the way the Spaceship-only crowd got their way... they think. While truly resources where just lowered all around and they get some bones thrown.

You see, said company, namely CCP advertised WiS as meaningful content for the last 4 years... Perhaps some people believed what they said and thought it might be fun content?

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Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-10-23 00:34:58 UTC
The thing about the CQ is it didn't seem so much like a refuge than a cage.
  • CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-10-23 00:37:17 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Renan Ruivo wrote:
You are mad because the company that made an internet spaceship games is making more internet spaceships.



nope

learn to read


Sekket wrote:
The thing about the CQ is it didn't seem so much like a refuge than a cage.



Bingo

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Nah, keep protests up. That is the way the Spaceship-only crowd got their way.


nope i was part of those protess a large number of people were also pissed becuase releasing one little cage of a room and then the NEX store and pay to win model, and so forth.

People want to be a pilot of a spaceship, but still want to ship spin.
People want to meet face to face in social area, with corp meeting rooms, but still want a fully featured FiS game.

Just because WiS was one of those features that took away from FiS, is ignoring the dozes of other pointless half ass features that have come out in the past 3 years. They should of been polishing everything in the game WHILE making WiS, they had the means, they went a different too robust route.

And I'm glad they aren't just pushing establishments out the door when so many in-space features need attention. But to 100% stop production is EXACTLY what they've done in the past with other features promised to be finished.

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Large Collidable Object
morons.
#19 - 2011-10-23 00:42:09 UTC
How many alts does this idiot have?
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-10-23 00:43:14 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
How many alts does this idiot have?



haha who the hell would pay more than 15$ a month to play an mmo.

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