Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That's why I suggested remote-detonated only, ie: one mine deployed per launcher. But here's another suggestion for Marauders: increase the Target Breaker strength by 100% per Marauder level.

Maybe now that assault cruisers are almost finished... Marauders might be next? (hint, hint)

My idea about maruaders?

Pretty simple. Give them an RR BS role.
This consists of 2 new kind of bonus's.

The new bonus's will change too for example the kronos:

Gallente Battleship skill bonus: 5 % bonus to large hybrid weapon damage and 10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level.

Marauder skill bonus: 7.5% bonus to repair amount of armor repair systems and armor remote repair systems , and 7.5 % bonus to large hybrid weapon tracking per level.

Role bonus: 100% to large hybride weapon damage, 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams and 100 % bonus to armor remote repair systems range.

This will pretty much buff a Large 'solace' remote armor repairer to the next stats:

Armor HP repaired: 384 -> 528
Optimal range: 8400m -> 16,800m

Increase sensor strenghte and grid a tiny bit and that's it. This will make them extremely good as a RR BS composition.
The range isn't extreme and the rep amount per remote repairer isn't extreme either. The shield remote repair variants require a large amount of CPU. A small tweak or bonus would be needed for those, becuase buffing up the golems or vargurs CPU wouldn't be a smart idea. They'd be able to fit multiple ASB's without fitting issues which shouldn't be happening.

Tell me what you think, it's just a random idea I was thinking about

Hmm, I think that would actualy be a nice idea. But I'm more a fan of the bomb idea xD Would be fun as hell.

well, the bomb idea was in fun

but the rr bonus would actually be best.
in worm holes or deep in space, one cant always have a complete fleet laying around. having the ability to run in 2-3 person groups would be awesome.
we put the rr bonus suggestion in several threads, its nothing new. but it would make the marauder SO much more useful.
give it a 10% range and a 5% amount bonus per level or something.

plus a sensor str bonus and a few other tweaks.

I like your changes, though I did notice that mass (and agility) were not mentioned. Those also are quite important with respect to ship mobility as well, and having reduced masses compared to other battleships could also aid in trying to give them the feel of a 'marauder'- basically a freight train from nowhere. I do think though that the focus of 'balance' should be on PvP, however, and that afterwards, PvE content is molded into a shape that's less grossly seperate from PvP (which is one of the reasons why there's such a huge gulf between PvE and PvP fittings, and why missioners are... Well, the easiest possible targets next to miners, and usually loaded down with the shiniest of gear.)

Even with the bonus, you would need the mind link and in gangs, command ships do the job better and are harder to crack(survivability is everything for a gang bonus ship on grid).

The RR utility makes them fantastic in gangs, logi disconnects are no issue at all for us in Incs, using marauders(you can also swap out Guardians for Oneiroses, since you don't need a logi for capping ships up after neuting). If you pair it up with a Logi you can fit buffer tank on both and remote + cap transfer between both ships what is a lot more effective and cheaper than to use a pimped active tank for WH, L5 or plexes. While it might not be the most useful thing for L4, it clearly separates them for faction BS for other pve stuff and makes them really good if you use them there.



Thx for your input. Well they are a bit heavier and less agile than normal BS, but so are HACs compared to Cruisers(at least with the current balance iteration, I did love nano HACs back in the days). The speed changes mostly reflect the changes to the T1 BS 2 months ago, making everything a bit less cumbersome, with exception of the golem that gets a lot more speed to utilize torps and mwd for pve.

I think with the changes they would be pretty good pvp ships to, Vargur as a slower mach with more range, tank and utility, Golem as dedicated torp gank machine(would probably nano fit it ), and Kronos and Paladin more as traditional RR small gang BS that bring a extra damage application bonuses with them(web bonus), a few more reps and some spare room for cap charges for the other BS.

I mostly tried to make them different compared to the faction and pirate ships, they should be not strictly better but can shine with unique bonus combinations and more flexibility, by offering something what you don't find on the other hulls in this combination. I would also like to see if CCP reduces the T2 components you need to build them a bit so they go back to 600-700M price range, like they where a few years ago. I think that is a good price segment, being a bit more expensive than navy BS but a cheaper than most pirate BS that can do offer more gank, EHP, speed or or other stuff for the ISK.

Here is an interesting twist.

Have each Marauder immune to targeting by it's racial type.

Example: Golem can not be targets by any Caldari ships.
Paladin cannot be targeted by any Amarr ships.
Etc.

(Pirate ships are exempt, not affected)

I would love to see Spider tanking marauders. Not because I think it'd be balanced, but because I love people raging at such things.

For this to work, sensor strength would need to be at a level where you don't get permajammed by one ec-300.

Oh god Spider tank Golem fleet Come at me!

Would be cool. A fleet of spider tanked Paladins. Lazors everywhere.