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CCP stll needs to do something about cloaks

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Walton Simons
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2013-06-14 14:38:05 UTC
CCP stll needs to do something about cloaks, i mean seriously one click and your invisible for all day, can't do **** cause this one person wants to afk with a cyno rapier in the middle of space

it's ok though, cloak takes no cap and you can't find the person unless he magically decloaks while afk but you know that won't happen while hes in the middle of space and there is noting there


in my opinion cloaks are very op and need a nerf :) like the prices of dreads need a nerf lol
Lilliana Stelles
#2 - 2013-06-14 14:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilliana Stelles
Just pretend there's no local and ignore it, seems to be what all the nullbears want anyways.

No one complains about afk cloakers in WH space because no one knows they exist.

Not a forum alt. 
Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#3 - 2013-06-14 14:40:35 UTC
Posting in Nerf Cloak thread number 35.303.281

Really...carebears with their carebears issues.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#4 - 2013-06-14 14:40:59 UTC
What does it prevent you from doing? Are you afraid of undocking because someone is in the system with a cloak?

Oh god.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#5 - 2013-06-14 14:42:26 UTC
Removing local would solve the cloak issue.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#6 - 2013-06-14 14:45:10 UTC
Cloak makes stuff invisible. You can use it too... Roll

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Citizen of Solitude
Walton Simons
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2013-06-14 14:45:43 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Removing local would solve the cloak issue.


Or putting a 1 hour max time depending on skills works too, lol ace menda, nice 5 kills past 3 months,talk about carebear
Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#8 - 2013-06-14 14:46:02 UTC
Well, you can do one of several things.

A) Absolutely nothing, ship spin, etc.
B) Move somewhere else if possible.
C) Try to bait him out.

Of course, B and C require effort to actually be put into motion instead of alt-tabbing to your out of game browser waiting for him to leave.
Shock
Interim Industries
#9 - 2013-06-14 14:47:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Shock
CCP has made clear that the cloaking mechanics can't be changed without a major rewrite of a lot code, because of the short-cut they took when implementing it (basically it puts your ship in limbo).

Personally I'm in favor of removing local in null though. The power-projection through capitals and jump-gates in combination with perfect local, heavily favors the defenders, making null PvP a more stagnant, blobby affair.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-06-14 14:48:59 UTC
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THERE ARE CLOAKS?

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Walton Simons
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-06-14 14:49:02 UTC
Shock wrote:
CCP has made clear that the cloaking mechanics can't be changed without a major rewrite of a lot code, because of the short-cut they took when implementing it (basically it puts your ship in limbo).


So basically there excuse is they do not want to fix it and leave in a over powered game mechanic?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2013-06-14 14:50:31 UTC
Cloak is the only counter to local.
Random Woman
Very Professional Corporation
#13 - 2013-06-14 14:51:38 UTC
Remove Local, problem solved. Dont hear much afk cloaking whining from the wh croud. No local seemed to have fixed it for em.
Shock
Interim Industries
#14 - 2013-06-14 14:55:11 UTC
Walton Simons wrote:
Shock wrote:
CCP has made clear that the cloaking mechanics can't be changed without a major rewrite of a lot code, because of the short-cut they took when implementing it (basically it puts your ship in limbo).


So basically there excuse is they do not want to fix it and leave in a over powered game mechanic?


I wouldn't say 'overpowered', but it is having negative effects.

Though personally I'm in favor of removing local in null. The power-projection through capitals and jump-gates in combination with perfect local, heavily favors the defenders, making null PvP a more stagnant, blobby affair.
Toshiro Hasegawa
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-06-14 14:55:46 UTC
please see this thread about cloaking

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699&find=unread

it contains all the procs and cons, list of posts abotu the subject and pretty much every though on the matter ever conceived.

History is the study of change.

Hans Zwaardhandler
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#16 - 2013-06-14 14:56:53 UTC
Random Woman wrote:
Remove Local, problem solved. Dont hear much afk cloaking whining from the wh croud. No local seemed to have fixed it for em.


Except for the fact that, as it has been mentioned before in other threads, that wormholes are unique in a variety of ways; you actually have to probe down the wormhole entrance, the wormhole can collapse and reshuffle to another position, and you cannot cyno in a wormhole system, which prevents drops and such.

So, comparing the tired old argument of local/cloaking in lowsec/nullsec vs. wormhole space is pointless given that they are not equal.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#17 - 2013-06-14 14:58:19 UTC
Does your corp live in a rented system OP?

Oh god.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#18 - 2013-06-14 14:58:54 UTC
Walton Simons wrote:
CCP stll needs to do something about cloaks, i mean seriously one click and your invisible for all day, can't do **** cause this one person wants to afk with a cyno rapier in the middle of space

it's ok though, cloak takes no cap and you can't find the person unless he magically decloaks while afk but you know that won't happen while hes in the middle of space and there is noting there


in my opinion cloaks are very op and need a nerf :) like the prices of dreads need a nerf lol


1. Don't be a coward.
2. If he is AFK, he can't actually do anything.
3. He can't decloak while AFK.
4. If you are so genuinely terrified by the threat of a pilot who isn't even at his computer, move to a different system.
5. Heaven forbid you set up bait for him and counter his hotdrop or whatever he is planning. Of course, being AFK, he can't actually do anything anyway.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Walton Simons
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-06-14 15:00:43 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Walton Simons wrote:
CCP stll needs to do something about cloaks, i mean seriously one click and your invisible for all day, can't do **** cause this one person wants to afk with a cyno rapier in the middle of space

it's ok though, cloak takes no cap and you can't find the person unless he magically decloaks while afk but you know that won't happen while hes in the middle of space and there is noting there


in my opinion cloaks are very op and need a nerf :) like the prices of dreads need a nerf lol


1. Don't be a coward.
2. If he is AFK, he can't actually do anything.
3. He can't decloak while AFK.
4. If you are so genuinely terrified by the threat of a pilot who isn't even at his computer, move to a different system.
5. Heaven forbid you set up bait for him and counter his hotdrop or whatever he is planning. Of course, being AFK, he can't actually do anything anyway.


not a coward been ratting with him here for past 2 hours, just saying it is broken, for someone being able to sit in the middle of space cloaked and safe,
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#20 - 2013-06-14 15:01:24 UTC
Walton Simons wrote:
So basically there excuse is they do not want to fix it and leave in a over powered game mechanic?


Could you please explain how the ability to be AFK is overpowered compared to, say, being logged off. You still cannot do anything while AFK.

If you manage to die to someone that is AFK then you should probably just quit the game.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
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