Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP devs are just bad. That they couldn't see they were making Tech3's OP as hell just baffles the mind.

Agree, that SP loss is a bad mechanic and needs to go.

Clone costs need to be done away with as well and just roll some extra cost into making ships and end the 'vet penalty'.

Personaly i hope the T3 cruisers are rebalanced nerfed where its needed and buffed where its due... and i dont agree that T3s should be better powerwise, in my opinion, T3s concept is its modular options, and ability to take on several roles and be great at it, just not "best"... to me, you pay for flexibility

and i hope thats how T3 frigates and T3 battleships will also be, but thats my take on it !

The only guys I see complaining about Tengus are usually the same either flying in 250+men fleet with fits trying to achieve nothing another ship couldn't do better, 200k EHP Tengus with 700 dps are nice on paper but plain crap on the field because :distance:, no one in those fleets is aloud to come with a better fit, which means 70kEHP and 850 dps at 35/75km because "nah I want a battleship with dreadnaught dps"

Guys engaging "solo" Tengus wit +1 invulnerable alt booster and often another falcon or logistics alt :elite PVP:

Tengu is no more OP than it was with previous HM's, it's rather less because now needs to be in a rather tricky distance to apply its dmg and at this distance a single neut Armageddon will pop them like popcorn.

No matter which one of T3's you pick and stack 250 or double of them on the field with support, they're all overpowered.
It's Eve, everything is about numbers, caracals can be as effective as T3's for a fraction of the cost so Caracals OP?

Can fly them all, some are stronger in one role than the others and no Tengu does not overperform.

Neut legion? -yes !!
ECM Tengu? -hell no

Heavy tackle Proteus? -yes
Heavy Tackle Tengu? -hell no, even with 200K EHP, Neuts balance perfectly well this role

Double web Loki?- yes, yes, yes
Point Tengu, logistics Tengu, Blaster Tengu? -what a joke, nice snowflakes nice on paper, nothing else.

The only thing Tengu is good at is zip zap over rats in anoms, be a special snowflake full of millions in DED fits couples with a booster loki and the stupid command ship, take oversize modules from it, OGB from it and suddenly it's just an expensive loot pinata.

Then again, once T2 cruisers are balanced I'm pretty sure something will have to be done to buff T3's not nerf them because whatever alliance doesn't want to loose those by hundreds when they could field 3 battleship fleets for the same cost but don't have the numbers online or whatever the crap propaganda.

Buff the Proteus? Bwahahahaha.


T3 Battleships would be good. More eye candy, loot pinata :D

When I think of a 'Flagship' class T3 battleship, I honestly don't think along the same lines of the strategic cruisers, well not quite along those lines anyway. I see a flagship as being a subcap-capital ship, a battleship with the ability to equip a specific module (I.E. Triage, Siege, Command) to modify their role on the battlefield. When activating these modules (Which, of course, they can only have one at a time), they would receive bonuses toward that aspect and penalties towards others.

Triage: Much like triage carriers, these would be battleship level logi ships, able to RR their fleet more efficiently while suffering say, a mobility penalty.

Siege: Similar to the Dreadnaught's Siege mode, the Flagship would enter a high damage mode, which would be offset by penalties to their tanking ability (Drop in EHP/Res/what have you)

Command: In Command mode, a Flagship would get boosts to their own EHP as well as boosts to ganglinks (As long as they are on-grid), but suffer a severe damage penalty.

Obviously there would need to be balancing, more than a little number crunching, etc. to make sure that while these Flagships are useful, they are NOT capital ships. But, personally, I think this would be a welcome addition to EVE's ship catalog.

Warp does make a bit more sense, doesn't it?

Maybe with the new Marauders and upcoming T3 rebalance, we can finally look at the long-promised T3 ships?

T3 Battleships (Flagships)

T3 Frigates (Corvettes)

Amarr T3 Corvette ... Centurion / Amarr T3 Flagship ... Imperator
Caldari T3 Corvette ... Kasha / Caldari T3 Flagship ... Oni
Gallente T3 Corvette ... Phobos / Gallente T3 Flagship ... Nemesis
Minmatar T3 Corvette ... Hel / Minmatar T3 Flagship ... Odin

I haven't flown frigates enough to offer suggestions for subsystems, but here are a few for Flagships:

Flak (offensive) ... Allows up to 4 light weapons to be installed in low slots for point-defense

Barrage (offensive) ... Increases rate of fire by 50%, but increases reload times by 4x

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First, they need to finish the current rebalance and get the existing T3s where they need to be. Once things settle down a bit, it might be time to introduce a new line of T3 ships, but I think a T3 frigate would be next in line, then a BS.

you are going to wait years for a battleship. TBH i dont see any place for a t3 BS unless it fits its own new role. They have a lot of work to do on the current tech 3s before they can even look to more.

to be honest id rather see tech 3 modules.

If you cant keep up with clone costs, you need to buy more plexes to fund your lifestyle. I hear there's a promotion going on. Stop being a scrub.