Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sorry but no, not now non the less, i want everything to be switched to V3 before

no.
T3 cruisers are still unbalanced.

Ignoring the current troubles/"fun" with T3 cruiser gameplay,

T3 Flagship would work if there are some significant changes, in my opinion.

You'd have to suggest some unique traits though - or key differences.
By my impression, a flagship would have to be something of what a Command Ship already serves - or simply put a "T3 version of CS", but as you said in a battleship size. And yet again here is where it gets tricky. It would only be balanced if there is no more offgrid boosting (or at least no offgrid boosting that is alike the 'Buffbot in a safespot').

Jumpdrives are always cool, but probably would have to introduce some special things that are unique to the T3. Suggest some along, if possible.

Also, there has to be some way so that one does not see millions of these on the field either. The material costs could of course limit such like how it is for Titans and S-caps, but you know how richy rich alliances would amass such ship "easily"(ymmv).

Just things to keep in mind.

Yes and no. They're also inherently more expensive and require substantially more skill training to get into.


Sure, but we're talking about a handful of ships for Marauders and Black Ops (possibly some of the Pirate Faction). Is there a gap with the type of battleships currently available that we need new T2s?

It's not so much T3 cruisers as much as it is the tengu seriously overperfoming.

Resurrecting this... And yes, I do appreciate that HAC, Black Ops and Marauders need to be fixed (or re-balanced). I'm completely against nerf'ing the T3s though because the problem isn't the T3s - it's the off-grid boosting (topic for another day). A few additional ideas I came up with for subsystems (in no particular order or race) to make Flagships unique:

• Carrier subsystem; allows a limited number of fighters with docking bay
• Barrage subsystem; allows for multiple bomb launchers with extended range
• Flak subsystem; allows for extreme rapid firing of light turrets/launchers
• Critical strike subsystem; allows for single volleys of weapons with increased hit chance (reload after)

You forgot that T3 ships are generalist ships: they can take any role but masters of none. Current T3 cruisers outperform several classes in their specialty: HACs, Blockade Runners, Command Ships, Covert Ops. That makes them unbalanced.

There are not many roles for T3 BS to take atm. Suggesting new ones only for them will lead to further imbalance.

I'm just assuming that you are referring to them as 'simliar built/produced to current strat cruisers', in which case they'd be hilariously expensive (wh-citizen-toy), had significant drawbacks and ideally wouldn't run over every similiar working battleship regarding performance.
For the most part (tank + dps in respective range) strat cruisers are already meddling with battleshipaffairs.

And the moment you'd see them deployed en masse for large fleets - as currently is none anymore but the tengu afaik (that 5HAM-brickgu) - you'd have a clear indication they once more failed the balancing.

Personally I'd prefer every unit of thought to be redirected over to the T2-revamp, instead towards such stuff that introducing probably won't make any sense over the course of the next two years at least :|

Yes. Consider them "pocket battleships" (larger than battlecruisers, but smaller than battleships). The idea would be to offer a few different mixes and not necessarily overlap existing roles of Black Ops and Marauders. At this point I'd just be happy with something other than new EVE launchers and constant rebalancing. Can't we just bite the bullet and get this done in a single update?

Plz introduce them.
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