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Adding Pirate Faction Warfare to Faction Warfare

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Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#61 - 2013-06-27 22:02:54 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
poepstreep66 wrote:
I would say this idea should be a point of focus for the next expension. Pilots and corps have been wanting to "join" with pirate factions for years now. Pilots use to do it in the roleplaying kind of way. This however would be a great improvment.


In the last 2 years I have made a number of threads encouraging this change to EVE.

A combination of changing how sec status interacts with highsec to increase pirate vulnerability there relative to their sec status, opening up pirate stations in those lowsec systems that have no NPC stations currently, changing FW mechanics so that it's harder to farm and adding NPC patrols of either pirate or faction ships (relative to which faction 'owns' the system) would be four changes that together I think would be worthy of an expansion *especially* if these also coincided with pirate faction ship rebalancing.


very strong point yes and many have tried and i still try it aswell
it would drag me into FW as soon as i can support my pirate faction of choice

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Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#62 - 2013-06-29 22:48:10 UTC
bump

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Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#63 - 2013-06-29 23:12:27 UTC
I think this would be fantastic. It would be even better if they could actually seize the systems from the FW navies. Toss in some 3 way action and see where it goes.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#64 - 2013-06-29 23:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Silivar Karkun
Naomi Anthar wrote:
I support this but ... also i would love to see more low sec. And part of this war to take also in low sec, not just null.

But this is absolutely one of best things (at least for me) that can happen to EvE. I would be loyal AS HELL Corpus or Centus Soldier !

Not sure about who would fight with who ... As far as i can tell you it would be Blood Raiders + Sansha vs Angel + Serpentis. I think Dread Guristas are more friends with Sansha/Blood Raiders than with Angel / Serpentis too. That could lead to some imbalance like 3 factions vs 2 . But in the end EVE is cruel world and is not meant to be FAIR ;).


i would say it could depend on the territory, for example, between Amarr and Caldari we could have war between the Guristas and the Blood Raiders, maybe make it a 3 way warzone, with the Sansha as a third enemy. so we would have 3 way warzones like this:

Amarr/Caldari : Guristas vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation

Caldari/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Guristas vs Sansha's Nation ( 4 way warzone)

Gallente/Minmatar : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Angels (Serpentis would be allied with the Angels by default of course)

Gallente/Amarr : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation

Amarr/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Sansha's Nation

Caldari/Gallente: Serpentis vs Guristas vs Sansha's Nation
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#65 - 2013-06-29 23:43:14 UTC
as for the OP, how would this affect the Incursion Rewards?, i mean, would it be a way to get rare blueprints like for example, the Revenant?
Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#66 - 2013-06-30 09:57:11 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
Naomi Anthar wrote:
I support this but ... also i would love to see more low sec. And part of this war to take also in low sec, not just null.

But this is absolutely one of best things (at least for me) that can happen to EvE. I would be loyal AS HELL Corpus or Centus Soldier !

Not sure about who would fight with who ... As far as i can tell you it would be Blood Raiders + Sansha vs Angel + Serpentis. I think Dread Guristas are more friends with Sansha/Blood Raiders than with Angel / Serpentis too. That could lead to some imbalance like 3 factions vs 2 . But in the end EVE is cruel world and is not meant to be FAIR ;).


i would say it could depend on the territory, for example, between Amarr and Caldari we could have war between the Guristas and the Blood Raiders, maybe make it a 3 way warzone, with the Sansha as a third enemy. so we would have 3 way warzones like this:

Amarr/Caldari : Guristas vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation

Caldari/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Guristas vs Sansha's Nation ( 4 way warzone)

Gallente/Minmatar : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Angels (Serpentis would be allied with the Angels by default of course)

Gallente/Amarr : Serpentis vs Blood Raiders vs Sansha's Nation

Amarr/Minmatar : Blood Raiders vs Angels vs Sansha's Nation

Caldari/Gallente: Serpentis vs Guristas vs Sansha's Nation


first of all if you follow the story line you will find some of the pirates are allies so the sum up is incorrect
by storyline there will be enemy pirate factions that fight eachother ofcourse but this is not seperate from regular faction warfare they also fight against the empire factions and like the empires have allied with eachother like amarr/caldari and gallente/minmatar so do the pirate factions have their allies and enemies.
the pirates though will have more enemies as the empires and some pirates are your targets.


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Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2013-06-30 10:08:16 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
as for the OP, how would this affect the Incursion Rewards?, i mean, would it be a way to get rare blueprints like for example, the Revenant?


this is interesting i still hope ccp introduces angel and bloodraider incursions and so on more pirate factions do incursions.
about rare blueprints there should be a balance mechanic for blueprints on this side of the yard.

as empire factions spam faction crap on the market the vallue drops.
for some items it is nothing but normal though some items should keep the valluable price but this we have to thank to the greedy bears that farm.

one thing would be to introduce stronger enemy presence on npc level in a faction warfare site so it will be impossible for the afk frigate LP farmers to do them.
with the pirates added to it that now have interest in staying in the site to conquer it on their behalf for LP.
it will get way harder for the doucebags to gain the LP they now daily farm on afk mode and check back after 15 minutes and go to the next.


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Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#68 - 2013-06-30 10:09:37 UTC
Aliventi wrote:
I think this would be fantastic. It would be even better if they could actually seize the systems from the FW navies. Toss in some 3 way action and see where it goes.


this is exactly what i am aiming for

2 dogs fighting for a bone the 3th one runs away with it. Pirate

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Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2013-07-02 00:21:29 UTC
bump

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Naomi Anthar
#70 - 2013-07-02 00:56:29 UTC
only 19 likes for Pirate FW idea ? Screw you EvE community.
Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#71 - 2013-07-03 07:54:00 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
only 19 likes for Pirate FW idea ? Screw you EvE community.


me like Big smile does that count? Pirate

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Balthazar Lestrane
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#72 - 2013-07-03 09:33:46 UTC
Love bump, this is one of the best ideas I've seen in this section of the forums. +1
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#73 - 2013-07-03 11:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Liafcipe9000
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#74 - 2013-07-03 11:56:27 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
only 19 likes for Pirate FW idea ? Screw you EvE community.

99% of Likes given on the EVE Online forums are in The Like And Get Likes thread in the Out Of Pod Experience board.
Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#75 - 2013-07-09 12:42:57 UTC
that doesnt sound like a good thing to me really?

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Grunnax Aurelius
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-07-09 15:26:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Grunnax Aurelius
I really want this thread to get stickied and i want to see CCP's opinion, like seriously, the idea is almost more perfect than Scarlett Johanssons T I T S!!!

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Naomi Anthar
#77 - 2013-07-09 15:42:01 UTC
It's so damn good idea, that i see no single argument against it tbh. Make it happen. Free bump
Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2013-07-09 16:13:50 UTC
well everyone help me promote this topic and bring it under dev eyes they must love it Roll

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#79 - 2013-07-09 21:10:36 UTC
Excellent idea.

I'm right behind you
Grunnax Aurelius
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-07-10 16:29:35 UTC
BUMP!!!

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