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Noha Khema
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-14 08:38:46 UTC
Anyway, if anyone wants some nice deadspace mods and kills, you should wage a war against Menceys Prospectors. It's basically a 1-person corp botting the Contested Canyon of Rust complex in Alsottobier almost 23.5/7

Is this part retribution? Why yes because it used to be a part of my income. I don't have any money right now to hire any mercs. I am just irritated that no matter how many people have reported this corp for being a bot, nothing is being done.

They all fly Ishtars that are specifically fitted against Serpentis rats with a huge EM hole.

The following characters are botting. They are either in the corp or have been with the corp:

- Feya Kortimna
- Megri
- gordius maximus
- lion fish
- Spider Fish
- Karin Krash
Nexeroff Severasse
Asymmetrical Explorations
#2 - 2013-06-14 09:00:14 UTC
I'm not surprised that someone else has noticed this...

There are some bots that used to belong to the Corp, and have left, and rejoined several times as well.

I suspect the same as you, that it's one person "Feya" who sometimes is multi-boxing and will respond if she knows someone messaged her bot about botting.

I have just completed a war with her bots, when fired upon her toons warp out, often leaving behind their Ogre IIs

"Feya" has started the corp, and the alliance which consists of only the toons in the corp. The corp name is "Menceys Propsectors", their ticker is "MEPR". Their Aliince is T E R C I O S.

Most of the toons use Ishtars with Ogre IIs, but there are some that use Tengu's sometimes.

The reason I believe that these are bots working the plex over and over again is that they do the same things each time. They move slow, ejecting the Ogre IIs when NPCs target them, then retrieve them, they move through each room in the same pattern, every time, and wait in the final room the structure spawns for the same amount of time.

I have spoken with Feya, and she has admitted that her corp does this to a plex over and over again, and then moves on to another. This has been going on for the last month, everyday, every hour, over and over and over non-stop.

I don't mind if a real person works the plex over and over, eventually they will take a break from doing the same thing over and over. I don't mind real people camping the structure to get it, it's all part of the game, waiting patiently. But when you use a program to farm a plex, and in the process ruin it for everyone else, that is wrong. Botting harms the game. It's incredibly frustrating to find everytime you visit the plex, no matter what time in the morning or night it is, there are the same botts doing the same things over and over and over.

I have reported the botting over and over, I have even posted on a DEV blog that spoke about bringing botters to justice. For weeks. Nothing has been done, this person continues to bott, even multi box bott, with impunity.

Even if a person is there to capture communications, you can see that these ships are botting. "Feya" most of the time will respond, but the others usually do not until much later when she checks them. If the resports are being ignored because she eventually responds, then I hope someone from the Anti Botting team actually watches the plex and see what we do.

If anyone wants to wardec them, I would like to join my corp to your allience and be included as well. I would like to get several people together and share in the proceeds if anyone is interested.

I also hope that CCP decides this has gone on long enough and resolves the situation themselves, but considering the lack of response up to this point, I don't feel like this will happen anytime soon.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2013-06-14 09:49:43 UTC
Might have to take the law into my own hands.

Send me any further Intel you have. Ideally, fit out a ratting BC, sit with them, and passive target then passive scan them.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#4 - 2013-06-14 12:33:46 UTC
Tried to dec them. Cannot find their corp in my wardec interface at all, despite it being still attached to their characters.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#5 - 2013-06-14 13:49:36 UTC  |  Edited by: 0Lona 0ltor
Botting is not against the game of EVE regardless of what EULA says. If botting was trully against the rules CCP would implement a VAC style ban for ISOboxing or botting. They don't so read it as it is.

If these chars don't get a ban... why would you?

I agree botting should be banned from EVE but it's been 9 years of people asking for a ban on botting and it's not happened yet and is not about to come any time soon. I don't like grinding ISK so I don't bother with it anymore. If CCP wants to ban botting I'll be happy but till they do...
Alec Enderas
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#6 - 2013-06-14 16:16:35 UTC
First, there is a difference between multi-boxing and botting.
CCP does ban bots now and then (check dev blogs from 1-2 months ago).
Remember the server being down for a day ? That could have been retribution for banning botters.
From what i understand, CCP is fine with multi-boxers as long as a human keeps pushing the button.
It is however very unlikely that someone can do that 23.5/7. If reporting 'as bot' did not work, plz. petition.

I am not old, just bitter.
Feya Kortimna
Menceys Prospectors
T E R C I O S
#7 - 2013-06-14 21:57:23 UTC
Hello All:

NExeroff Severasse should be a good political, this friend has tried to get me out of your domains with all possible tricks
and now also wants to destroy my reputation outside EVE, trying to put on me to CCP.
Just look at the history of "Noha Khema" i think "Nexeroff Severasse" has tried the EVE offer "The Power of TWO"
I do not know if a bot as he describes really exists, but if it really exists, thanks for thinking of me as someone so smart
Until recently I thought that bots were only able to mining, but now it missiles and drones can be used to adapt to the dangers of a complex jump gates and interact with other players.
I'm looking forward to CCP in contact with me to clarify the lies of this player cheat, In my corporation's me and my two children, and usually do not speak locally.
This continuous player sends me messages and talk to others to report bots, sometimes I think he believes that I and my children really use bots.
CCP should act against false reports.
bots have never used and never will use them, I have shown that this post has been manipulated by nexeroff severasse using a second account.

Please excuse if there is any mistake in my writing as I am using a translator.

Fly Safe.
ChYph3r
A Murder Of Crows.
Homicidal Tendencies.
#8 - 2013-06-15 00:20:27 UTC
hey Op look the Feya used a bot!

a translator bot!


STFU op and go play with yourself in a corner.

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Noha Khema
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-06-15 00:44:33 UTC
Wanna hedge a bet for CCP to check the IP address of those toons and their online times history?

Anyone who's been in that complex has seen anyone on that list of characters continuously doing the complex.

As for me being Nexeroff's alt? Try asking CCP if indeed I am Nexeroff's alt, you'll be disappointed.



Funnily enough, you've "stopped" doing the complex after you've seen this report.

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#10 - 2013-06-15 01:54:56 UTC
*sharpens knives and fits out Navy Vexor*

I hate bots.

X

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Nexeroff Severasse
Asymmetrical Explorations
#11 - 2013-06-15 06:10:45 UTC
All anyone has to do is to simply watch the people who are in, or have been in Fey's corporation Menceys Prospectors. Don't believe me, don't even believe anyone that posts in this thread who claims she is running bots in the complex constantly, non-stop, day in-day out. Check for yourselves. You will see what I see and everyone else who attempts to run the plex.

This is what you will notice. They use the same pattern per each toon as they move through each room of the plex, regardless of the NPCs being there or not.

Most use an Ishtar, but one uses a Tengu. They react the same way when aggressed, they all have similar things in their profile about not chatting in local and will auto ignore anyone who attempts to chat them up. If you put a bounty on them, they do not respond until hours later because Feya is not at her computer, or not watching her multi-box bot. Many times Feya is also online, but most of the time she is not and it's only her bots that do not respond.

There have been times when the key NPCs such as the Negotiator have been in the room, at the same time as one of her bots, they always react the same way, they do not go straight for it. Instead they continue on their path, regardless of the valued NPCs in the room.

In each room you must kill all NPCs before the gate unlocks so you can move to the next room. Many times Feya's botts will ignore this fact, and continue the same pattern they always do in each room when they could simply go straight to the acceleration gate and move to the next room that has the structure.

These are just a few of the reasons I know Feya is using a bot. If you observe on your own you will also see what I see, what others have seen.

Feya is farming the system with bots. Regardless if she is multiboxing, and if that is alloyed by CCP, regardless if she is using another toon while her other accounts are botting and she checks up on them every once in awhile. She is still using a program to do what a human should be doing. Because she moves through each room in the plex at a specific speed, recovering and spitting out her Ogre IIs at specific times, it makes it very simple to bot each room of the plex. Another thing I have noticed is when her bot hits the gate and attempts to use it, and another NPC has spawned in the room, her bot spits out her Ogre IIs and commits to another pattern no matter how far or close the NPCs are.

I have watched her bots time and again, I have used different tactics such as spitting out a container that states that particular toon is botting, making it blue to see if they recover the items thus making the container vanish, they do not, matter of fact they ignore it time and again.

Feya can claim that she is not botting, but anyone with any gaming experience can simply observe what is going on, and see exactly what it is she is doing. And because she is doing this, she is making it impossible for anyone else to have a fair shot at the loot being dropped unless the rooms are camped, because she runs one bot after another through the plex over and over 24/7.

If anyone has an alliance and wardecs Feya, I would be glad to join and do whatever I can to help mitigate her botting. If anyone has any reasonable suggestions on how to take out an ishtar really fast, I am willing to gank her over and over and incur whatever costs are involved, I am building several toons for this exact purpose. Her botting has to come to an end, I am committed to making sure of this. I have given her plenty of time to farm and leave, weeks, that time is at a close and now something must be done about her ruining this particular Cosmos plex for all other pilots.
Nexeroff Severasse
Asymmetrical Explorations
#12 - 2013-06-15 06:16:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Nexeroff Severasse
Alec Enderas wrote:
First, there is a difference between multi-boxing and botting.
CCP does ban bots now and then (check dev blogs from 1-2 months ago).
Remember the server being down for a day ? That could have been retribution for banning botters.
From what i understand, CCP is fine with multi-boxers as long as a human keeps pushing the button.
It is however very unlikely that someone can do that 23.5/7. If reporting 'as bot' did not work, plz. petition.


I and several others petition every time we see her botting in the plex. So far there has been no response. I have even posted on the DEV blog that pertains to botting and what CCP is doing about it, still no response as of yet.

I imagine that there are hundreds of bots being reported on a daily basis, I also imagine it must be very difficult for CCP to sort it all out and be fair about who is banned or not. So I keep reporting every time I see it, in the hopes that CCP will eventually do something about it so that the plex will be freed up for people attempting to complete their COSMOS missions. And personally I will do whatever I can to mitigate this persons selfish and obnoxious behavior.

On a side note I don't think that I explained myself properly. I do not suspect Feya of only multi-boxing, in fact I suspect she is multi-boxing but not at the keyboard, I believe she is multi-boxing several bots all at the same time. I have literally seen two of her bots behaving exactly the same way in the same room of the same plex many times. One ends up staying in the last room camping the structure you are suppose to destroy while the other logs off, then back on and restarts the plex again, switching with the other to camp when it gets to the end.

I have even seen two bots working the plex with Feya operating her own toon, in the plex herself, specially when there are other people working the plex. She will target people while their drones are destroying the other NPCs in an attempt to get someone to accidentally attack her, which is a tactic many people use but this is the reason I believe she is at her keyboard on that particular toon, but the other bots just do the same thing over and over.

I also want to mention that another reason I believe she is multi-boxing is because sometimes she looses connection, and all her bots plus her drop connection at the same time, and all re-appear at the same time. All these things would lead me to believe that she is multi boxing BOTTS, not just multi-boxing.
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#13 - 2013-06-15 06:44:42 UTC
If you've reported someone to CCP for being a botter and nothing has happened there's a chance believe it or not that they aren't a botter
Nexeroff Severasse
Asymmetrical Explorations
#14 - 2013-06-15 07:53:23 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
If you've reported someone to CCP for being a botter and nothing has happened there's a chance believe it or not that they aren't a botter


There is also a chance that CCP is too busy, and as well a chance that she bots while playing her other toon, and checks every once in awhile to see if someone contacted her about botting, or is attempting to speak with her in local. All these things are possible, however, if you just spend a few minutes while she is actually botting in the plex, you will soon discover the truth of the matter. It's one thing to debate possibilities on this post, and another totally different when you observe what is actually transpiring.

I will not deny that she is often online the same time she is botting, and further, I will not deny that I believe she is multi-boxing, playing one toon while botting the others. Still, she is obviously botting, she knows exactly what it is she is doing as well as anyone with half a brain that observes her toons working their way through the plex.

She is playing Spider Fish, botting it through the plex right now. If you catch this post, go discover for yourself the truth. Matter of fact I would like someone else besides the few of us on this post who know, to confirm it.

I wouldn't post this if I did not believe 100% that this is the case, I have never posted anything like this prior and tend to side with CCP on the posts that I have posted, this however is something else totally different.
Toxic Fuzz
Fuzz Industries
#15 - 2013-06-15 08:01:46 UTC
feya is botting confirmed
Feya Kortimna
Menceys Prospectors
T E R C I O S
#16 - 2013-06-15 11:34:57 UTC
Well, by now I'm doubting Nexeroff bad intentions, I'm reading your post, and I think that is very smart and truly believes that management or bots, well personally and after my last conversation with him, I think the second option more .
Nexeroff, you need to visit a psychologist to help you with your problem, no one should be harassed in this way.
When I declared war on your corporation, you get out of it.
Play and let play if continuous so that CCP we ban the user get both.

Fly Safe.
Nexeroff Severasse
Asymmetrical Explorations
#17 - 2013-06-15 12:54:00 UTC
Feya Kortimna wrote:
Well, by now I'm doubting Nexeroff bad intentions, I'm reading your post, and I think that is very smart and truly believes that management or bots, well personally and after my last conversation with him, I think the second option more .
Nexeroff, you need to visit a psychologist to help you with your problem, no one should be harassed in this way.
When I declared war on your corporation, you get out of it.
Play and let play if continuous so that CCP we ban the user get both.

Fly Safe.


Beg your pardon?

I haven't left the plex, specially since I don't belong to the corp you declared war on, the person that the corp belongs to however did shoot at your bots, which then immediately left the plex, even leaving behind some of their ogres from what I understand. I hope he chimes in! I'm going to let him know what you have said here.

Insinuating that I am harassing you, when in fact it is you who makes it impossible for anyone to complete their Cosmos requirements because your bots are constantly working the plex, is pure crap.

Feya, you know what you are doing, you know what you are doing is wrong, you even admitted to me what you are doing. I think I need to post the conversation you had with me here for all to see, so they can understand you better.
Chane Morgann
Fuzz Industries
#18 - 2013-06-15 12:57:27 UTC
Nexeroff Severasse wrote:
Feya Kortimna wrote:
Well, by now I'm doubting Nexeroff bad intentions, I'm reading your post, and I think that is very smart and truly believes that management or bots, well personally and after my last conversation with him, I think the second option more .
Nexeroff, you need to visit a psychologist to help you with your problem, no one should be harassed in this way.
When I declared war on your corporation, you get out of it.
Play and let play if continuous so that CCP we ban the user get both.

Fly Safe.


Beg your pardon?

I haven't left the plex, specially since I don't belong to the corp you declared war on, the person that the corp belongs to however did shoot at your bots, which then immediately left the plex, even leaving behind some of their ogres from what I understand. I hope he chimes in! I'm going to let him know what you have said here.

Insinuating that I am harassing you, when in fact it is you who makes it impossible for anyone to complete their Cosmos requirements because your bots are constantly working the plex, is pure crap.

Feya, you know what you are doing, you know what you are doing is wrong, you even admitted to me what you are doing. I think I need to post the conversation you had with me here for all to see, so they can understand you better.


Yes it is my corp you wardeced and it is true each time I tried to fight you, you ran away and I have several of your drones to prove it also they were bots not real people it is simple to see what you are doing. You tried to scare me off so I hunted your bots thats when you used only bots that are not in your corp so you would not be killed. You are using bot software to bot this complex so nobody can play it.
Feya Kortimna
Menceys Prospectors
T E R C I O S
#19 - 2013-06-15 13:10:25 UTC
but have you smoked today?
I was really bored waiting outside the station and did not come out and say hello.
You're confusing your dreams with the reality of the game.
How many times have I asked you to a duel and you turned it down?
Enjoy your dreams.
Chane Morgann
Fuzz Industries
#20 - 2013-06-15 13:24:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Chane Morgann
I have never talked with you, ever. You have never waited for me outside of any station anywhere. Matter of fact anytime I came into the complex you left before I could find you. I hunted you for a week straight and you never showed yourself willingly, and when I did find you, you ran away. The only character of yours you did anything with was one of your bots that you left your corp with, that wasn't wardeced with mine and you didn't say anything at that, you offered me quaffe in a trade window and then logged out. You lie, flat out you lie. Let me refresh your memory, I took shots at your bots with a SB, in the plex while you were camping out. I took shots outside the plex with a cane, and I took shots at you in a discophoon. Everytime your bots ran away with their ishtars and I still have the Ogre IIs to prove it. I am too young I can' t even use ogre IIs I don't even have 2 months playing this game and you ran away like a noob and all your characters have 2-3 years. You lie you bot and you cannot deny it!

:::Edited:::

Another thing I just realized the only character you did anything with me with, was a character you tried to give me quafe with, that you did not respond when I asked you why and it was only later I realized it was one of your bots because I saw it in the plex but it wasn't in your corp even. You just said you challenged me,. That was the only thing that could have been a challenge but you never talked. But you did just expose the fact you are using bots. Caught you!
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