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132 sensor strength Brutix vs. 5 light ECM drones. Results - predictable.

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Perkone
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-06-12 23:01:42 UTC
people get mad when I cockblock with my ECM ship.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-06-12 23:04:23 UTC
I'm still waiting for my web and damp drones to be as effective as ECM ones but they're such a crap....

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Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#43 - 2013-06-12 23:09:52 UTC
Shoddy killmails are why most of us are in high sec.

Yes OP, ECM is broken. It's RnG. RnG is junk math. 17% ECM and there you sit getting melted with no lock, 80% R&D and you end up with 1 in 5 copies.
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#44 - 2013-06-12 23:29:27 UTC
What they should do is make the other EW drones viable for a change. The only choice of EW drones is the EC variants...and that is a sad thing.

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Andrea Griffin
#45 - 2013-06-12 23:42:05 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Actually, ECM drones are seriously underpowered compared to actual ECM modules.
Not really. You can recall your drones and send them out after a failed jam. Also, though the ECM drones have a low strength, each individual drone has a chance to jam. It's that 5 chances that makes them strong.

Wouldn't be nearly so bad if the duration wasn't as long.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-06-15 05:40:56 UTC
Andrea Griffin wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Actually, ECM drones are seriously underpowered compared to actual ECM modules.
Not really. You can recall your drones and send them out after a failed jam. Also, though the ECM drones have a low strength, each individual drone has a chance to jam. It's that 5 chances that makes them strong.

Wouldn't be nearly so bad if the duration wasn't as long.

Yes giving them a 4 sec stackable jam would be more balanced.

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Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2013-06-15 06:14:58 UTC
CCP broke random() function. Oh no they didn't.

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Erutpar Ambient
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-06-15 06:42:50 UTC
What would really help would be to change the duration from a static 20 sec jam time to a 20sec * change to jam time. So if you had a 3% chance to be jammed, if you were successfully jammed it would last 0.6 seconds. That way if you do spend a billion isk on countering ECM you will feel the effects jammed or not. With enough Sensor strength ECM will just be a target breaker.
Oggat
The Adam's Family
#49 - 2013-06-15 06:44:02 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
CCP broke random() function. Oh no they didn't.



No, they didn't. Computers can't make random numbers. It's why spamming drones works. It's why the Falcon has multiple ECM modules.
Lucretia DeWinter
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2013-06-15 08:15:37 UTC
Erutpar Ambient wrote:
What would really help would be to change the duration from a static 20 sec jam time to a 20sec * change to jam time. So if you had a 3% chance to be jammed, if you were successfully jammed it would last 0.6 seconds. That way if you do spend a billion isk on countering ECM you will feel the effects jammed or not. With enough Sensor strength ECM will just be a target breaker.


This.
Erutpar Ambient
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-06-15 08:51:28 UTC
Lucretia DeWinter wrote:
Erutpar Ambient wrote:
What would really help would be to change the duration from a static 20 sec jam time to a 20sec * change to jam time. So if you had a 3% chance to be jammed, if you were successfully jammed it would last 0.6 seconds. That way if you do spend a billion isk on countering ECM you will feel the effects jammed or not. With enough Sensor strength ECM will just be a target breaker.


This.




/thread too apparently ;p
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#52 - 2013-06-15 08:52:49 UTC
This is why my Drake has a Smartbomb.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#53 - 2013-06-15 09:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Eugene Kerner
smartbomb
or
always have a web and a gun for drones...or own drones (being Gallente...)

also...HTFU you attack one guy with two chars and rant about being grilled?

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#54 - 2013-06-15 09:12:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Quick fix: fit smartbombs. They fit in high utility slots.

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Obunagawe
#55 - 2013-06-15 09:13:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Obunagawe
Andrea Griffin wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Actually, ECM drones are seriously underpowered compared to actual ECM modules.
Not really. You can recall your drones and send them out after a failed jam. Also, though the ECM drones have a low strength, each individual drone has a chance to jam. It's that 5 chances that makes them strong.

Wouldn't be nearly so bad if the duration wasn't as long.


No you can't. I take it you haven't actually played EVE since... 2011, was it, when they removed that? Try it now and you will get no jams, ever.

One way I've found to beat ECM drones is to orbit your target at about 30km with your MWD on and going at about 5000m/s. Then they don't catch up.
Alternatively bring smartbomb. I used a smartbomb Sleipnir at one time to great effect. It's a shame CCP decided that having two utility highs on things isn't good anymore - smartbomb/neut was a nice combo.
Drone vs drone doesn't work, the ECM drones won't die fast enough as there's 5 of them.
If you're in a frigate you can, theoretically, destroy them all with guns in the 20 second grace period after they engage you.

If you don't have a frigate, a very fast kiting ship, or a utility high... not much you can do. Your ship is obsolete for solo.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-06-15 10:50:44 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
Andrea Griffin wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Actually, ECM drones are seriously underpowered compared to actual ECM modules.
Not really. You can recall your drones and send them out after a failed jam. Also, though the ECM drones have a low strength, each individual drone has a chance to jam. It's that 5 chances that makes them strong.

Wouldn't be nearly so bad if the duration wasn't as long.


No you can't. I take it you haven't actually played EVE since... 2011, was it, when they removed that? Try it now and you will get no jams, ever.

One way I've found to beat ECM drones is to orbit your target at about 30km with your MWD on and going at about 5000m/s. Then they don't catch up.
Alternatively bring smartbomb. I used a smartbomb Sleipnir at one time to great effect. It's a shame CCP decided that having two utility highs on things isn't good anymore - smartbomb/neut was a nice combo.
Drone vs drone doesn't work, the ECM drones won't die fast enough as there's 5 of them.
If you're in a frigate you can, theoretically, destroy them all with guns in the 20 second grace period after they engage you.

If you don't have a frigate, a very fast kiting ship, or a utility high... not much you can do. Your ship is obsolete for solo.

Lol

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Julius Priscus
#57 - 2013-06-15 11:07:03 UTC
ISD Tyrozan wrote:
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RULE 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.



eish I got warnings but NOOOOO! I get banned lol
FDIC Agent
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-06-29 22:02:20 UTC
Lost another Brutix due to being perma jammed by light ECM drones. I managed to kill one of them, but the other four jammed me.

When will this be fixed?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#59 - 2013-06-29 22:12:33 UTC
FDIC Agent wrote:


When will this be fixed?



Magic 8 ball says:

"Working as intended".


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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
FDIC Agent
Doomheim
#60 - 2013-06-29 22:27:11 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
FDIC Agent wrote:


When will this be fixed?



Magic 8 ball says:

"I'm not a EVE Online developer.".



Fixed your post.

I grow tired of players tossing around that phrase as if they designed the game themselves.