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Gnosis - pay for boost?

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Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#1 - 2013-06-11 14:27:49 UTC
Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.

Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.
Popsikle
Caffeine Commodities Company
#2 - 2013-06-11 14:31:10 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.

Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.


wutlol?

1.) You still need the skills to use the modules/drones/whatever

2.) they are getting pricey because they were limited run... not really noob friendly.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2013-06-11 14:33:05 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.
Because it's a 10-year anniversary ship that cannot be reproduced through in-game means, and is meant as a celebration of the game and its players.
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#4 - 2013-06-11 14:36:01 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.

Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.


I think you are serious.

What day old account is going to even have a full flight of drones to undock and be able to fit it to be anything but a lossmail?

Just because there are a lot of shiny bonuses on the hull does not mean that the ship is magical and grants untrained skills.

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#5 - 2013-06-11 14:38:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Because it's a 10-year anniversary ship that cannot be reproduced through in-game means, and is meant as a celebration of the game and its players.


Don't we still have BPCs coming with the Special Edition? Even then, it's still going to remain a limited issue item.

Also, OP, a day one noob won't enjoy nearly as much versatility as someone who actually has some SP to back up the Gnosis' built in role bonuses.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#6 - 2013-06-11 14:39:52 UTC
I wonder how many newbs quit because their precious Gnosis popped in the very first lvl 3 mission they tried.

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#7 - 2013-06-11 14:40:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
They're going up in price cuz I'm blowing them all up because noobies think they're all awesome in them, when they fit 50mm plates to them... Pirate

Where I am.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#8 - 2013-06-11 14:42:48 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line?.


Its Jovian and a present

Stetson Eagle wrote:
1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.


Yup, and a LOT of 1 day olds can die screaming in their Jovian coffins too.

Stetson Eagle wrote:
Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising?


No but godforbid a company might try and build their user base. You're right, its just sick that they would want fresh blood. (Mmmmmmmm fresh blood)


Stetson Eagle wrote:
Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on?


1) And.... so? 2) No. Why on earth would they?

Stetson Eagle wrote:
Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.


Please explain how it will in no less that 1000 characters.




Can I have your Gnosis?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Litair
Nleesh
#9 - 2013-06-11 14:56:58 UTC
I do believe it's not an accident we all got a Gnosis very close to the expansion. It's a quite decent exploration (battle)cruiser that allows every player to go out and explore with pretty good bonuses, without being a dedicated explorer already. It just so happens that Odyssey is about exploration.

Quite lucky you would have a free exploration ship waiting in your hangar then, ready to go with all the preset bonuses, no? :o
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#10 - 2013-06-11 15:00:24 UTC
Litair wrote:
*words I didnt read because I was looking at your face*



Your face is as pretty as the OP's face isnt



*lick*

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Haulie Berry
#11 - 2013-06-11 15:15:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.

Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.


Yes. Every new player is going to receive limitless gnosis, in fact, so they have a good strong do-anything ship to fly while they train up their skills.

It wasn't going to be this way, but they decided to do so just now, out of spite, in response to your shiptoasting.

Seriously though, did you wake up this morning and think to yourself, "Self, what completely idiotic non-issue can I whine about today?"
Litair
Nleesh
#12 - 2013-06-11 15:18:06 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Litair wrote:
*words I didnt read because I was looking at your face*



Your face is as pretty as the OP's face isnt



*lick*


*dries face*

Um thanks, I think ^-^
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-11 15:23:56 UTC
OP are you just completely oblivious to everything ever?

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Yaz Raholan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-06-11 15:43:59 UTC
Well, i'm a complete noob and i took mine out and quickly realized i had no business being in one, and quite frankly was pretty useless in my hands. So i sold it so i have some spending cash. lol.

Not only that i don't find it a very attractive ship. Maybe that's just me tho.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#15 - 2013-06-11 15:45:38 UTC
It's always struck me as ironic that the guys who present themselves as so macho and hardcore, always telling people to "HTFU" or, "Adapt or Die", are the ones who are most resistant to any change in the game. Seems they also hate the fact that CCP is a business that wants to attract new players in order to grow their bottom line.

The most hilarious thing is when they lay the blame for everything at the feet of "new players who have it too easy". What a bunch of crotchety, whiny bittervets.

Follow your own advice all you change averse types; "HTFU".

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Steel Olgidar
Sartre Compact
#16 - 2013-06-11 16:23:56 UTC
The Gnosis is either a profit or loss for any new player. i sold mine and got cruisers instead.
I've seen many flown die and I prefer being able to buy new ships if I get popped.

There are only three things worth nothing in Eve; ISK; Skill Points and Getting Blown up. Once you learn this, the universe truly sets you free.
Esharan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-11 16:31:48 UTC
Are they going up? I need them to get back to 200 mil a pop....
Matthew97
#18 - 2013-06-11 16:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I fully agree that they are newbie friendly, as shown in the link below:
*snip* Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited. ISD Ezwal.
Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-06-11 16:52:00 UTC
Stetson Eagle wrote:
Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.

Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.


It is completely limited. It's not like they will be able to stock these things. Once they are destroyed, after the BPO are used, that's them all gone.
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#20 - 2013-06-11 17:26:46 UTC
Litair wrote:
I do believe it's not an accident we all got a Gnosis very close to the expansion. It's a quite decent exploration (battle)cruiser that allows every player to go out and explore with pretty good bonuses, without being a dedicated explorer already. It just so happens that Odyssey is about exploration.

Quite lucky you would have a free exploration ship waiting in your hangar then, ready to go with all the preset bonuses, no? :o


No to mention the limited edition exploration frigates we all got at Xmastime
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