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PvP sucks when you are new

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Samuel Woodbury
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2013-06-13 14:35:52 UTC
Apherolaz wrote:
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
So you wanted to play for a month and win against people with years of experience?


Because that is what i typed, right? Infact i'm pretty sure i stated the opposite - hence my apprehension to even start playing this game to begin with.

Obviously reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points.


Eve is a game where you live in, not a game you come to get out burst of pvp. you cant live just by shooting other players unless you are good at shooting other players, you could always do faction warfare. join a FW corp, i would recommend it for most new players.
Juan Diolosa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-06-13 16:28:44 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
whether you think you can or you think you cant--youre right )))


Words of wisdom from a man with double Ds....and I thought my picture was bad...holy christ...

This! ^^

I had to double-take those D's... all I could think about was that godamned lotion I left in the basket.
Apherolaz
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2013-06-14 01:09:33 UTC
Thanks for the advice, everyone.

I've paid for 3 months sub, so i will persevere. For now i wil avoid solo PvP; besides, working in groups i am having much more success and still learning plenty as well.

DAven Caluna
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Brave Collective
#64 - 2013-06-14 18:11:52 UTC
It sounds to me like your trying to win a fair fight. This is eve however, you dont have to fight fair. Id advice you to join RvB, lots of fun lots of fights. If you dont have any isk to get some ships ive still got like 10 punishers there id be more than happy to donate to you. Send me an eve mail if you'd like them.
Toshiro Hasegawa
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2013-06-14 18:48:15 UTC
theres a lot of great info in this thread on how to get better.

just wanted to add to the pile of people who have already said .. its not the SP or the isk you have that makes you a good pvp pilot .. they just open doors to you and buff what is the most important thing which is player skill.

i cant pvp worth a dam .. and although my skills are lacking in the pvp department .. they are better than yours, but from what you have posted i bet you are already a better pvp'er than I .. all i know how to do is run away .. the player skills i could or should have are lacking for a myriad of reasons.

if we had a rifter fight . i might use the wrong weapons at the wrong time, at the wrong range, use my mods at the wrong time, run out of cap and die.

i dont solo pvp .. i only group pvp and when i do i am asupport char .. i know where my "skills" lie.. and i dont pretend to be more than i am.

as a frig pilot you are going to lose ships .. can not be avoided .. its the way its suppsed to be. but while playing the frig role, you do things that the bigger ships can not. you may die .. but you are helping the group out for which they should be thankful .. the best pvp'ers in game need frig pilots .. especially ones that are keen to figth, dont mind losing ships and will come back for more.

over time you will get better, as will your skills and your wallet.

personally i think you are doing great so far .. probably done more pvp in your short time that most new players .. to echo tothers i would say stick with it, keep asking questions and have fun .

History is the study of change.

Kraig Enaka
Forst Insertion
#66 - 2013-07-25 08:34:24 UTC
I think what the guy who started this post is also trying to say that it's a game, and it shouldn't take a whole entire year just to start being able to win fights in PvP. I think that's a bit overboard, myself.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2013-07-25 13:15:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
Kraig Enaka wrote:
I think what the guy who started this post is also trying to say that it's a game, and it shouldn't take a whole entire year just to start being able to win fights in PvP. I think that's a bit overboard, myself.


Took me less than one month to train amarr frigates with tech 2 weapons and mostly tech 2 fittings and I went out and got my first solo kill on my alt last night.

Join a corp, get someone to teach you and you can easily do the same.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#68 - 2013-07-25 14:17:44 UTC
As a fellow newb I just want to point out that it can be done and the doing of it is a blast. My biggest regret is that the first corp I joined was almost pure mission runners so I spent my time floating around solo or running missions (gag). Now that I've joined FW and put myself out there the learning curve though long, doesn't seem insurmountable. Then again, I'm not a stinking squid :p

http://blfox.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1589649
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#69 - 2013-07-26 08:02:32 UTC
Glad OP decided to stick with it. The first few months of Eve can simply be harrowing. Or the first few weeks/days if you pay enough attention to absorb all the information thrown your way. All of us have been where you have been OP. Two years ago I too floated around in New Eden, lost in my little Rifter. I died a lot and never won a fight. I thought PVP was unfair and sucked, I asked myself how can I ever beat those lowsec pirates with tons of SP, ISK and experience?

Today I'm CEO of a small lowsec outfit taking down / ransoming carebear ISK farms, and making a stop to 0.0 entities taking over customs offices in lowsec. The answer to my problems turned out to be simple perseverence. To simply never relent, never give up. To play inquisitive and trying to learn from every new situation. Everything is Eve is situational. You need to experience typical scenarios in order to understand how to survive them, or fight and come out on top despite some losses.

You and your friends that is, because the most valued commodity in this game are actual people. Make contacts in-game, build a social network, get into a corp that cares about PVP and PVP-oriented objectives. Good luck, I hope the OP will give the game a while longer.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-07-26 18:39:06 UTC
Apherolaz wrote:
Thanks for the advice, everyone.

I've paid for 3 months sub, so i will persevere. For now i wil avoid solo PvP; besides, working in groups i am having much more success and still learning plenty as well.



Join brave newbies, or RvB.

Srsly. do it.