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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#81 - 2013-06-15 16:53:48 UTC
Been years since I've seen one of these.

It's always interesting to look through peoples avatars. For a relatively limited creator, there is a real variety of faces and I enjoy browsing them in a convenient format such as this site provides.

Mr Epeen Cool
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#82 - 2013-06-15 21:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Celeste Taylor
Alice Saki wrote:
It's broken... I'm not 1st Lol


I voted for you! Actually most of the usual suspects like Brit Green, Large Collidable, Akirei, Sarah Schneider, and Riot Girl make the list. Celebrities like Vile Rat, Seleene, Chribba and Mittani and most of CCP seem to fill out the list. Great list! Nova you have one of the best Intaki that I have seen! I know that the current system doesn't allow bloodline sorting (or even gender) but I would like to see how you stack compared to other Intaki since the list is so full of Achura!
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#83 - 2013-06-15 22:02:50 UTC
<--- intaki Blink
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#84 - 2013-06-15 23:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Kierra
Celeste Taylor wrote:
Alice Saki wrote:
It's broken... I'm not 1st Lol


I voted for you! Actually most of the usual suspects like Brit Green, Large Collidable, Akirei, Sarah Schneider, and Riot Girl make the list. Celebrities like Vile Rat, Seleene, Chribba and Mittani and most of CCP seem to fill out the list. Great list! Nova you have one of the best Intaki that I have seen! I know that the current system doesn't allow bloodline sorting (or even gender) but I would like to see how you stack compared to other Intaki since the list is so full of Achura!


Thanks, that's kind of you. Filtering by bloodline and race is pretty trivial to do. Just re-use the existing Top 100 page for bloodline and race. My only concern is displaying those characters all at the same time. There could be a few hundred Caldari characters and trying to load them all at once will take a 3-4 seconds to load even on a fast connection. I hate the fact that main page takes so long to load because it's pulling at 1300 characters (but who actually votes on all 1300 characters in one sitting?)

I'll try to add some kind of infinite scrolling first before attempting that feature. Someone has also asked for full list, sorted alphabetically, that one definitely needs pagination or infinite scrolling.

I always vote for you Eurydia Vespasian, unless you are head to head against Ariel Dawn, Luv Rocket, clitheroica, Antares Rai, Jaliaah, Riot Girl.

P.S. I am happy to say that the server hasn't crashed yet since yesterday. And there is only a minor discrepancy in wins / loss counts: 17305 wins vs 17319 losses. This is most likely due to people's internet connection. Each time you vote, it sends two separate requests to update: one for wins and one for losses. There could be so many reasons for one one request to not go through. Eventually i'll make it so that it sends only a single request, i.e. all or nothing vote.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#85 - 2013-06-15 23:38:12 UTC
http://www.newedenfaces.com/characters/92658897

Oh god my sides - honorary win in my book

Site has really nice design and functionality; guts could use some work but I guess you're on that.
Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni
#86 - 2013-06-16 01:27:39 UTC
I think the points ratio should reset every time you update an avatar. Nice site, though
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#87 - 2013-06-16 19:49:36 UTC
It's pretty easy for people to manipulate these things if they're so inclined and have some time to waste. Especially with an easy skip option and a low entrant count.

I can't do much about the former but I did add a whole whack of characters to the mix. Plus it's nice to have some variety.

Mr Epeen Cool
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-06-16 23:43:21 UTC
Tanuki Kittybeta wrote:
I think the points ratio should reset every time you update an avatar. Nice site, though


@Tanuki Kittybeta, The problem would arise when people start abusing it and start updating everyone's avatars, including those in Top14. One person could essentially reset everyone's rating to zero. Since there is no login requirement I can't do much to check who's avatar belongs to who, or who should have permissions to update avatar and who should not.

@MrEpeen Thank you, I did notice a big jump in new characters on the site. As for the skip button I added it per request of a few people who did not want to be forced to rate two awfully looking characters. One thing I can add to prevent skip button abuse is to put a time limit, e.g. 10 skips per hour.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

JAG Fox
GunStars
#89 - 2013-06-17 01:11:26 UTC
good job on getting the bugs out Nova.

one thing I would like to see is the portraits with the most losses disappearing for good! lol..

secondly, i think the matching system could be improved instead of being random. why not match portraits with a similar win/loss ratio for example? the cream will rise to the top..

 Fox Pin-up

Kisses!Foxie.

Khira Kitamatsu
#90 - 2013-06-17 03:31:59 UTC
So why is it that people with bad percentage ratio are higher than those with good percentage ratio? Kinda wonky scoring system. Shocked

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JAG Fox
GunStars
#91 - 2013-06-17 03:41:08 UTC
i think it's based on number of wins right now rather than win/loss percentage.

 Fox Pin-up

Kisses!Foxie.

Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-06-17 21:12:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Kierra
That's correct I have changed the leaderboard sorting by number of wins because people with no rating or only 1-2 wins were in the top ranks.

Thanks everyone for the feedback, here' s coming in the next update:


- The entire character list will no longer be loaded when you open the website. Instead only 2 characters will be displayed at a time. More requests will be made to the database but in return you'll have much faster initial loading times. I've heard reports where the site could take 13 seconds to load before you see anything. As more characters are added, it takes longer to load the page. There are now over 1500 characters in the database.

- Top leaderboards for each race, within that - for each bloodline.

- Keyboard shortcuts for voting left or right avatar. I was thinking A = left avatar, D = right avatar, or that plus left/right arrows.

- Skip button limit : 10 skips per hour.

- Timer that will automatically deleted lowest rated character each week or every 3 days. It's arbitrary, just have to be careful not to overdo it to the point where a year from now, half of the characters database will be deleted.

- Matching system will match similarly ranked people based on the win/loss ratio.

- Single server request per vote. The gap between wins and losses has slightly widened due to dropped wins or losses requests. From 48,000 votes, there are 49 more wins than losses. Both numbers should be equal.

- Add a small counter that displays a total number of characters on the website.

- Index database by character Id for faster querying. Add file indexing on GridFS for faster image loading.

- Convert existing images that still point to CCP servers to use local database instead. I have noticed significantly longer loading speed for images that still point to old URL. This means either:
a) The CCP server are extremely busy right now or,
b) The CCP has throttled bandwidth for image requests that come www.newedenfaces.com domain.

- Reset stats every month.

- Minified CSS and Javascript files for improved loading times.

-

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#93 - 2013-06-17 21:28:28 UTC
I'm surpriced that I am still in top 14 :S

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Ariel Dawn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#94 - 2013-06-17 21:36:55 UTC
The design of the site is fantastic, being able to reset or start a "new round" with new portraits would be pretty awesome if possible!
JAG Fox
GunStars
#95 - 2013-06-17 22:04:22 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
I'm surpriced that I am still in top 14 :S


the ranking is based on wins, so as long as you keep winning you will not lose your place. Evil

 Fox Pin-up

Kisses!Foxie.

Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-06-18 07:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Kierra
CHANGELOG JUN 18, 2013

You may now press A or Left Arrow and D or Right Arrow to vote for your favorite avatar!

Search bar displays total number of characters currently on the website.

Top 100: Overall, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar, Amarr, +3 bloodlines per each race.

Bigger thumbnails, grayscale mouseover effect, large position font on Top 100 page.

Optimized search queries: smaller requests, faster page loading times.

All images are now stored on GridFS; now 100% independent from CCP servers.

Leaderboard / Top 100 is now sorted by Win/Loss Ratio once again.

Profile page now displays a more accurate Win:Loss ratio instead of a percentage. Formula is pretty straightforward: wins divided by losses.

Matching is now managed by the server, you will not see the same portrait until all 1500+ avatars have been voted for. Good news is that you don't have to do it all by yourself. Whenever you or someone else votes, skips or refreshes the page, it moves the "cursor" to the next avatar. This process repeats until it passes the total number of characters, after which it resets back to 0.

As some of you have suggested, now characters will be matched with similar win/loss ratio. To make it a little more random, matching won't be just between 2 adjacent avatars, but based on a radom number from 1 to 10. In other words, #1 avatar will be matched with a random avatar up to 10 ranks below.

Every 24 hours the lowest ranked character will be deleted from the database.
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New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#97 - 2013-06-18 11:29:20 UTC
Awesome site. Nice to see you uploaded the source code for curious developers like myself to scratch my head over.

Also, at this time;

Quote:
Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at www.newedenfaces.com Port 80

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#98 - 2013-06-18 13:16:20 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Awesome site. Nice to see you uploaded the source code for curious developers like myself to scratch my head over.

Also, at this time;

Quote:
Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at www.newedenfaces.com Port 80


There was a bug, that would crash the server when list of characters returned are less than 10 (towards the very end).
Why do I need 10 characters from the database when there's only two characters that get displayed? To randomize and pair similarly ranked characters.
I quickly fixed that problem, but then I noticed that after you vote for everyone you only reach up to a ~1000 people, instead of 1503. I am not sure how or why, so instead I temporarily rolled it back to simpler matching system: two adjacent pairs, e.g. #1 vs #2, #3 vs #4, #506 vs #507, etc...
It's not that bad, just less predictable.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

Brit Green
Hagkaup
#99 - 2013-06-18 16:05:12 UTC
It's your contest and your rules but I'd like if you didn't change them all the time. Yeah, I'm a little annoyed that I went from 1st to 80th overall.
Khira Kitamatsu
#100 - 2013-06-18 18:04:29 UTC
Brit Green wrote:
It's your contest and your rules but I'd like if you didn't change them all the time. Yeah, I'm a little annoyed that I went from 1st to 80th overall.


As Mr. Epeen said, websites like this are too easily manipulated. So I wouldn't take it too seriously, its all in good fun.

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