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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#281 - 2014-01-01 07:40:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Thanks again for this ridiculously addictive website. I just wanted to share some issues I am having out of courtesy.

Arduemont here has 18 wins and 6 losses, which should place him above 95th on the top male 100, but he's not showing up there. Also, the page times out (with 'Proxy Error') when I try to load any race specific (as opposed to bloodline specific) male leaderboard.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#282 - 2014-01-01 10:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Kierra
Arduemont wrote:
Thanks again for this ridiculously addictive website. I just wanted to share some issues I am having out of courtesy.

Arduemont here has 18 wins and 6 losses, which should place him above 95th on the top male 100, but he's not showing up there. Also, the page times out (with 'Proxy Error') when I try to load any race specific (as opposed to bloodline specific) male leaderboard.


Thanks for the bug report. I was not aware about that Proxy Error. It works fine locally, so I can only assume it's on the hosting's side. As a workaround I have switched to hash URLs, which is the default routing mechanism in Backbone.js, e.g. http://www.newedenfaces.com/#stats

As for your top 100 placement, you weren't in it because there are too many other characters with the same # of wins. The cut off point is a hundred characters. Sorting by winning percentage is calculated on the fly after 100 characters sorted by wins are retrieved. If MongoDB database could sort by function expressions such as the one for calculating the winning percentage, this wouldn't be an issue. It only allows to sort by actual fields: losses, wins, name in ascending or descending order.

Until I come up with a better solution I have increased a cut off point to 150 characters, sort them by winning percentage and then return top 100 from those. Same goes for leaderboard, the cut off point is now 18 characters, sort by winning percentage, return top 12.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#283 - 2014-01-01 12:33:33 UTC
Nova Kierra wrote:

Thanks for the bug report. I was not aware about that Proxy Error. It works fine locally, so I can only assume it's on the hosting's side. As a workaround I have switched to hash URLs, which is the default routing mechanism in Backbone.js, e.g. http://www.newedenfaces.com/#stats

As for your top 100 placement, you weren't in it because there are too many other characters with the same # of wins. The cut off point is a hundred characters. Sorting by winning percentage is calculated on the fly after 100 characters sorted by wins are retrieved. If MongoDB database could sort by function expressions such as the one for calculating the winning percentage, this wouldn't be an issue. It only allows to sort by actual fields: losses, wins, name in ascending or descending order.

Until I come up with a better solution I have increased a cut off point to 150 characters, sort them by winning percentage and then return top 100 from those. Same goes for leaderboard, the cut off point is now 18 characters, sort by winning percentage, return top 12.


That was quick, nice work. At the time that I posted last Arduemont had 18 wins and 6 losses (or whatever) and there were people in the top 100 with 18 wins and 7 losses. I expect it's a problem that wont last long anyway once the wins and losses get higher and there are much fewer people with identical scores.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#284 - 2014-01-01 13:14:17 UTC
A M A Z I N G what people have done in the new character creator. Shocked
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#285 - 2014-01-02 19:41:49 UTC
Out of curiosity, how many people would be interested in the New Eden Faces iOS app?

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#286 - 2014-01-02 19:58:30 UTC
It's interesting to see some old familiar faces at the top from the days of Babes of New Eden. Crystal Avalon, Ariel Dawn, and FiberFly to name a few.

It's surprising that more of them aren't near the top. Like Kara Jordan or Brit Green for example.

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Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#287 - 2014-01-02 20:16:44 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:

It's surprising that more of them aren't near the top. Like Kara Jordan or Brit Green for example.


I remember those characters being in top spots back in the day when there were only ~1000 characters. But with 6000+ characters, competition is now much bigger. Most characters in Top 100 right now deserved to be there, in my opinion. But not all - instead of Nicole Jung, yue ju, Death Cell or Celeste Taylor should be in those spots.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#288 - 2014-01-02 20:30:39 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
It's interesting to see some old familiar faces at the top from the days of Babes of New Eden. Crystal Avalon, Ariel Dawn, and FiberFly to name a few.

It's surprising that more of them aren't near the top. Like Kara Jordan or Brit Green for example.


It's still early after the reset.

There are still male avatars in the top 100. That'll never do.

Mr Epeen Cool
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#289 - 2014-01-02 20:59:38 UTC
Nova Kierra wrote:
Ila Dace wrote:

It's surprising that more of them aren't near the top. Like Kara Jordan or Brit Green for example.


I remember those characters being in top spots back in the day when there were only ~1000 characters. But with 6000+ characters, competition is now much bigger. Most characters in Top 100 right now deserved to be there, in my opinion. But not all - instead of Nicole Jung, yue ju, Death Cell or Celeste Taylor should be in those spots.

Or Riot Girl or Kairavi... Yah.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#290 - 2014-01-02 21:32:15 UTC
What, my avatar is losing 56% of its matches? The app is obviously glitched. Blink
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#291 - 2014-01-02 21:40:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Celeste Taylor
Thanks Nova. I notice our avatars tend to climb and descend on these charts together. There are a few others like Riot Girl, Eternal Sophia and Private Panacan who seem to travel up and down with us. Part of the issue is that people like us don't vote against avatars just to keep them from the top. So over the last week there are a bunch of great looking avatars above us (who I don't have the heart to vote against) who have until yesterday had perfect scores. As of I believe yesterday I have started to see some votes against the top circle though, so I believe either a bitter voter just noticed that the counter was reset or someone wants to pull ahead from all those near perfect scores or fell off that top ranks due to normal voting. For the most part though I think that most of us who are not on the top 100 but have not voted against the top over the past week are part of the nice people group and eventually will make it to the ranks again. I do agree that the top 100 is starting to shape well though since most of the avatars that I vote for are there, despite a number of absent ones due to negative voting.

It is weird how fast the males are dropping though. I still believe it has to do with the fact that it is harder to agree with what makes a good looking male avatar. For example I will occasionally vote for one with a facial tattoo (rarely do this for female avatars) but it does look like the community dislikes facial tattoosl, so in effect voting for them will lower the overall top scores for male avatars. It is also easier for me to choose an amazing or hideous female avatar, while often I am at a loss when deciding which male looks better.

edit: I love the statistics page. I would think that the "Leading Race" should be leading bloodline, especially if this is an easy change or addition. The three bloodlines for each race have so little (physically) in common and the groupings feel rather arbitrary for the site. It is also funny to see the most recently added list since most of them are terrifying with a few great looking ones. Why do people add avatars that don't have a associated image to them?

edit: of course it wouldn't be a big stretch to think that someone actually doesn't like our avatars and prefer girls with huge assets or radical hairstyles and piecing. It just seems weird that there are some avatars who are somewhat similar in qualities who do not have many negative votes which makes it feel a bit more personal.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#292 - 2014-01-03 04:24:41 UTC
this incarnation of me isn't doing so well. that's too bad. it'll be awhile before I go into kspace for a make over. deal wit it, yo.
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#293 - 2014-01-03 04:38:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Kierra
Celeste Taylor wrote:


edit: I love the statistics page. I would think that the "Leading Race" should be leading bloodline, especially if this is an easy change or addition. The three bloodlines for each race have so little (physically) in common and the groupings feel rather arbitrary for the site. It is also funny to see the most recently added list since most of them are terrifying with a few great looking ones. Why do people add avatars that don't have a associated image to them?

edit: of course it wouldn't be a big stretch to think that someone actually doesn't like our avatars and prefer girls with huge assets or radical hairstyles and piecing. It just seems weird that there are some avatars who are somewhat similar in qualities who do not have many negative votes which makes it feel a bit more personal.


It's funny you mention Eternal Sophia. That used to be my character in 2009 until I sold her about 6 months later. That was before the 3D character creator, so I am not responsible for her current look.

I can add leading bloodline to statistics page as well, it's not too much work. Anything else you would like to see on the stats page?

There is a small update incoming shortly that will make overall website a little more stable.

Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
this incarnation of me isn't doing so well. that's too bad. it'll be awhile before I go into kspace for a make over. deal wit it, yo.


Are you in a wormhole space? But I will admit, the previous Eurydia was better.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#294 - 2014-01-03 04:42:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Kierra wrote:
Are you in a wormhole space? But I will admit, the previous Eurydia was better.


mhm. been living there for a good while. I used to change my avatar every couple days once upon a time. now it's like once a month lol

pony tails get no love. sad but true.
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#295 - 2014-01-03 08:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Kierra
Sorry for the brief downtime. I had some issues with the new feature that displays how many users are online on the website. This update mostly contains code refactoring, better error handling, new loading indicator, new notifications alerts and new statistics info per Celestia's request.

@Eurydia Vespasian: Come by Jita 4-4 when you get a chance. I always hang out there.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com

CCP Falcon
#296 - 2014-01-03 11:56:26 UTC
whooo yeah, dat win percentage <3 <3 <3

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#297 - 2014-01-03 12:00:59 UTC


Dev hax!

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#298 - 2014-01-03 12:02:12 UTC
I only have 31% .... :(

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#299 - 2014-01-03 12:10:27 UTC


http://www.newedenfaces.com/#characters/93341477

84% Falcon Shocked

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#300 - 2014-01-03 12:33:44 UTC
What do you expect? He's a dev. No matter how hard he tries to create an ugly avatar, people would still upvote him.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE