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Oberine Noriepa
#221 - 2013-10-26 03:53:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Oberine Noriepa
Ila Dace wrote:
Personally I dislike female characters with overly masculine facial features like... Uh..well...

And yeah, I know, I always get a lot of flack for the red shirt, but if it was good enough for Montgomery Scott then doggone it, it's good enough for me.

Red shirts UNITE! (You must get frequent back pains.)

Personally, I think the coolest looking portraits are the ones taken for Solhild and Sajuuk Brutor. I've always liked those two a lot. Death's Desire has a really cool portrait as well, because that character looks a lot like Death from The Sandman graphic novel series.

Skurja Volpar wrote:
Mmmmm, Large Collidable Object gets me every time.

Large Collidable Object truly fits the term exotic beauty in New Eden. Lol

Ramona McCandless wrote:

Celeste and Riot are two of the single best portrait-havers in this game and yet

UGLY DERIVATIVE COWS LIKE THE TWO ABOVE

Get more votes




Its a diabolical liberty

It's always nice to know that someone thinks I'm beautiful enough to be considered a bovine variant of the slope of a function's tangent line. I truly feel different(iated) and transcendental! P

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#222 - 2013-10-28 01:52:52 UTC
I enjoy the site but it still needs a bit of work.

For example, the current #1 Male Gallente Intaki is Eurydia Vespasian. EeVee is correctly marked as female, yet that particular list doesn't believe the label apparently.

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But in purple, I'm stunning!
Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#223 - 2013-12-23 23:24:25 UTC
Hello everyone,

I know I haven't been posting in this thread for quite some time but that doesn't mean I stopped working on New Eden Faces project. If you haven't checked it out yet, a few days ago I did a partial UI overhaul to keep things fresh.

There is a "bug" in the system right now where characters are being matched to the same one or two people per each round. You probably have noticed that already. It has already been fixed but because I also did a very significant refactoring change to the entire codebase I am going to hold off from pushing the changes to the live website for now, until more testing is done.

Now I would like your hear your opinion on where should the next priority be for New Eden Faces. I have a few things that I would like to implement:


  1. Character "VS mode" where you can pit a character against another one. The difference between current voting system is you get to choose which character goes against another character. Only 1 fight per character can be active at any time. After 8 hours, one with the most votes is the winner.
  2. Stats page that shows total number of males, females, how many characters per each race, bloodline. Display a live history of all votes (who won, who lost). Because right now it's all transparent, you don't know who won against who, or when did that happen... Possibly some other other useful statistics that could be extracted from database. And of course pretty graphs will be part of the stats page!
  3. Scheduler to remove lowest ranking character each day. Another scheduler to reset all stats every 200 or 300 rounds?
  4. Character traits such as Attractive, Intelligent, Angry, Calm. User can select over a hundred different attributes from a drop down list. Can only cast one trait per character. Profile page keeps track of which traits have been casted for the character, as well as the # of times the same trait has been casted. For example Attractive (3), Intelligent (2), Admirable.
  5. Performance optimizations = make site more responsive, by using caching, less number of requests, minifying JS and CSS files.


And as always, if you have found a bug let me know so I could try to fix it. If you just keep quiet about it or whine "fix your broken ****" without explaining what the problem is (and yes that happened), I cannot fix it. I am a full-time student, with a part-time job and working on so many other projects at any given time, I simply do not have time to look for every possible bug or loophole in the website.

Thanks,

Nova Kierra

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#224 - 2013-12-23 23:32:32 UTC
The only thing that needs fixing is the horrible taste of the people who vote.

109 - 211 for me, really? Sad

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Neurale Obutale
#225 - 2013-12-24 00:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Neurale Obutale
The site really needs more characters entered. Only 3464 characters are entered out of the hundreds of thousands available. A paltry sum, if you ask me. Just tripling this amount would dissuade people from running through the list and up-voting or down-voting the characters of their choice greatly. People shouldn't have that kind of luxury, but if more characters aren't added, then I guess things won't change.

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C C P Alliance
#226 - 2013-12-24 05:11:39 UTC
I may be unable to stop clicking...

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Sakura Kouvo
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#227 - 2013-12-24 05:23:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Sakura Kouvo
So to add myself, I just put in my name? I hope I'm doing it right. :P

But this is awesome and addicting! :D

Edit: http://www.newedenfaces.com/characters/92390678

Well darn. Guess people find me unattractive :P

I'm 13 and I play EVE. I hope that doesn't change the way you fly in fleets with me. :3
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#228 - 2013-12-24 05:40:38 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
The only thing that needs fixing is the horrible taste of the people who vote.

109 - 211 for me, really? Sad


It's actually a good thing.

If you didn't look good then all the little dweebs wouldn't be down-voting you to improve themselves in the standings. These things are so easily manipulated by the hyper-competitive, Alpha male types that play this game that they will never be anything close to impartial.

It's too bad. A lot of people have put a lot of time into these sites only to have them gamed by the very people they took the time to make them for.

Kind of pathetic.

Mr Epeen Cool
Mr Pragmatic
#229 - 2013-12-24 05:58:04 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
The only thing that needs fixing is the horrible taste of the people who vote.

109 - 211 for me, really? Sad


It's actually a good thing.

If you didn't look good then all the little dweebs wouldn't be down-voting you to improve themselves in the standings. These things are so easily manipulated by the hyper-competitive, Alpha male types that play this game that they will never be anything close to impartial.

It's too bad. A lot of people have put a lot of time into these sites only to have them gamed by the very people they took the time to make them for.

Kind of pathetic.

Mr Epeen Cool



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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#230 - 2013-12-24 14:20:32 UTC
Amazing project :)

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Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#231 - 2013-12-24 17:41:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Kierra
Neurale Obutale wrote:
The site really needs more characters entered.


I wish I could write a script that will go through all forums and grab thousands of characters automatically, but unfortunately if I do that I will not be able to set character's gender since you need an EVE API key for that sort of information. So in the worst case scenario thousands for characters will have an undefined gender and won't be matched properly until people click on "Wrong Gender" button and then I re-assign gender manually myself. I could do that if others don't mind seeing incorrect gender matching for a short period of time.

CCP Logibro wrote:
I may be unable to stop clicking...

Big smile


Mr Epeen wrote:

It's too bad. A lot of people have put a lot of time into these sites only to have them gamed by the very people they took the time to make them for.
Mr Epeen Cool

It has been a lot worse back in June causing a short-term drama. The site was being abused left and right. So far I haven't noticed any irregularities other than people's bad taste in good-looking avatars. Ariel Dawn (http://www.newedenfaces.com/characters/916857044) is not even in Top 100. And what happened to Female Sebeistor? They used to dominate the leaderboard. My avatar has never been in Top 10 before, so I assume this is due to the other 2 "fixed" avatars I am constantly being matched against which are most-likely significantly worse than Nova Kierra. Will release a fix for a proper character randomization shortly.

Altrue wrote:
Amazing project :)


Thank you!Smile

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com
Neurale Obutale
#232 - 2013-12-24 17:54:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Neurale Obutale
Nova Kierra wrote:
Neurale Obutale wrote:
The site really needs more characters entered.


I wish I could write a script that will go through all forums and grab thousands of characters automatically, but unfortunately if I do that I will not be able to set character's gender since you need an EVE API key for that sort of information. So in the worst case scenario thousands for characters will have an undefined gender and won't be matched properly until people click on "Wrong Gender" button and then I re-assign gender manually myself. I could do that if others don't mind seeing incorrect gender matching for a short period of time.

I think that's fine. Better than the current situation, anyway. Once the sorting is complete you can just reset the stats. In the long run, it provides an ideal voting environment. Right now, if you vote on one character per second, it will roughly take you over an hour to go through the entire list. Voters shouldn't be able to do this. With 100,000-200,000 characters the desire to run through the list and cherry picking votes would decrease dramatically.

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Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#233 - 2013-12-24 18:30:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Davon Mandra'thin
Fantastic site. I could spend hours just clicking through the portraits (I say could, I mean have).

I think you might want to take some kind of look at the ranking algorithm for the males vs female portraits. Seems the difference between individual female portraits is more pronounced and so they get higher win to loss ratios. But where you never put a male portrait against a female portrait you're ending up with male portraits very rarely getting into the overall ranking.
Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
#234 - 2013-12-24 18:54:46 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
The only thing that needs fixing is the horrible taste of the people who vote.

109 - 211 for me, really? Sad


What can I say? It's the ugly, overpriced monocle. P
Neurale Obutale
#235 - 2013-12-24 19:01:02 UTC
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
Fantastic site. I could spend hours just clicking through the portraits (I say could, I mean have).

I think you might want to take some kind of look at the ranking algorithm for the males vs female portraits. Seems the difference between individual female portraits is more pronounced and so they get higher win to loss ratios. But where you never put a male portrait against a female portrait you're ending up with male portraits very rarely getting into the overall ranking.

Yeah, this is a pretty big problem. Right now it just looks like the site is being used so that people can upvote their high-sec dolls. There are NO male characters in the top 100, which is pretty ridiculous.

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Nova Kierra
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#236 - 2013-12-24 19:08:22 UTC
Neurale Obutale wrote:
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
Fantastic site. I could spend hours just clicking through the portraits (I say could, I mean have).

I think you might want to take some kind of look at the ranking algorithm for the males vs female portraits. Seems the difference between individual female portraits is more pronounced and so they get higher win to loss ratios. But where you never put a male portrait against a female portrait you're ending up with male portraits very rarely getting into the overall ranking.

Yeah, this is a pretty big problem. Right now it just looks like the site is being used so that people can upvote their high-sec dolls. There are NO male characters in the top 100, which is pretty ridiculous.


I am aware of it. As far as correctness goes, there is nothing wrong with it. Top female character and top male characters have the same total number of votes (# of wins + # of losses). Male votes tend to be more distributed between wins and losses. Where female votes are more pronounced with higher wins, fewer losses.

New Eden Faces -> www.newedenfaces.com
Arisidana
Amadari Traders
#237 - 2013-12-24 22:01:09 UTC
What is the deciding factor for the ranking? Is it the Win-Loss ratio or the overall number of votes?
Reason I'm asking is I added a character a while back, she has a ratio of 72.9% but less votes then most other characters. She still doesn't appear in any rankings, not even in the bloodline ranking.

Another thing I noticed, why is Ash'ale (not my character) No 1 in the Minmatar female ranking but not even in the top 100 overall?
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#238 - 2013-12-24 22:18:00 UTC
I also believe that there are factors like scars, piercings, monocles, facial tattoos and mohawks that work for male avatars that I vote for but do not end up in the top 100 male list. This is probably not helping them get in the top 100 since we are voting for very different factors. I think that in some ways the female avatars tend to have more clearer definitions on what is considered traditionally pretty. Just a speculation.

I am also convinced that many of the ranks are due to who you are paired up against. This is the first time in the sites three incarnation that Celeste has been number one, and I believe that part of it is due to being matched against Celeste Lovette (who isn't bad, but is a bit awkward with those lips and facial piercings) for most of this run. My other avatars are all ranked in a weird order too.

While I think that most of the top 100s are gorgeous I do miss Antares Rai, Damia Gray, Demeter Gray, Alice Saki, Riot Girl and a bunch of others who I also suspect are paired against strong avatars. On the other hand Nova Kierra Slave Tama and Yunnai who I always vote for are near the top and Sanya just broke into the list!
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#239 - 2013-12-24 22:41:33 UTC
oh, wow. I forgot about the site lol. I thought it was dust int he wind long ago. good to see you're still working at it, nova.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#240 - 2013-12-24 22:47:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
To be honest, when a character like Miiral ends in the hall of shame (88 wins to 264 loses), it looks like the website scores work on the base of GIGO.

It doesn't tests who are the best avatars, rather it tests whether internet users are jerks. Shockingly, the answer is 'Yes, internet users are jerks'. What?

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