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Less fluff, more stuff?
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Black Dranzer
#21 - 2013-06-10 23:51:04 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
I do too. Maybe CCP should create a "Give us your big things" thread.

Now this, this is actually an idea. A giant thread devoted, not to little things, but giant big things. Big pie-in-the-sky features. Just as a method for gaining player feedback on what exactly is important on the scale of "give me an expansion with this as a central feature".

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#22 - 2013-06-10 23:53:49 UTC
The OP has a point, things are an essential part of expansions.

Clearly defined "things".

non-vaporous themes, but hard and fast "things"

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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-06-11 05:16:14 UTC
Erutpar Ambient wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
CCP, im not satified with my Chocolate Sundae AND my Brownies AND my Cookies..I want more desserts! Id ask for cake, but we all know by now that the cake is a lie.


I really liked this quote, it makes it realllyyy easy to understand what the OP is saying.
So we have the chocolate sundae and the brownies and the cookies. In odyssey they now look amazingly delicious but for the most part the taste hasn't changed at all. The sundae has a little more whipped cream (scanning/explor) the brownie has frosting (jump effects) and the cookies have more chocolate chips(mining). But the sundae is still made from fat-free icecream, the brownie has no sugar and the cookie is hard as a rock.

What the OP is looking for is the basics, the mechanics. The stuff that causes player actions. Odyssey had lots of glaze but not a lot of meat. Ship chnages may help those ships get used more, but it doesn't encourage more people to fight in general.

I personally vote for T3 nerf sooner than later. T3 = pay to win. When you read about large fleets of 100+ T3s tearing up everything. Well it makes all the other subcaps obsolete... High damage/huge tank/high tracking/small sig/very fast, just basically all around OP. There should be a limit of how much isk you can field based on the number of pilots. And it damn well shouldn't make obsolete so many roles.


Well, it's been a week and already most of sov nullsec is in a war caused by resource changes, but I guess it has been an entire week and if that's *all* the content odysseey has generated in that time you're probably right about there not being much new things to encourage people to fight more.


What this game needs, is Pandas
Erutpar Ambient
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-06-11 05:42:04 UTC
Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:

Well, it's been a week and already most of sov nullsec is in a war caused by resource changes, but I guess it has been an entire week and if that's *all* the content odysseey has generated in that time you're probably right about there not being much new things to encourage people to fight more.

What this game needs, is Pandas


Yes, they got some "thing" right. But to be honest, if the HBC hadn't crumpled, regardless of the Tech II changes you might be seeing GoonHive renter alliance. But yes they did great with that, but the scale of war we're seeing now is more of a result of null sec politics. Though some could argue (tin hat time) that Sort Dragon was a design of Goons from before moongoo changes went pub to break the HBC and get Fountain (aka Faucet).
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