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Where are the binary star systems?
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Chung DanYul
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-10 13:37:57 UTC
As I was flying about in EVE, I was looking at the scenery and thought. . .

"the majority of star systems in our galaxy are binary - having more than one star. . ."

A solitary star system is actually quite rare. . . but all the star systems are solitary in EVE. . .

Since it is science-fantasy, we can just say. . ."it's just how this galaxy rolls!!!"

We could incorporate new binary star systems in eve, and even make new materials for industrial use come from them. . . theoretically, it is thought that the gravitational anomalies in binary star systems may create new minerals and elements. . .

Without messing with the solitary systems, eventually EVE could add binary star systems in time and perhaps say that "new technology was needed to go to the binary star systems. . ." :D

What does everyone think about this?
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#2 - 2013-06-10 14:56:19 UTC
Chung DanYul wrote:
As I was flying about in EVE, I was looking at the scenery and thought. . .

"the majority of star systems in our galaxy are binary - having more than one star. . ."

A solitary star system is actually quite rare. . . but all the star systems are solitary in EVE. . .

Since it is science-fantasy, we can just say. . ."it's just how this galaxy rolls!!!"

We could incorporate new binary star systems in eve, and even make new materials for industrial use come from them. . . theoretically, it is thought that the gravitational anomalies in binary star systems may create new minerals and elements. . .

Without messing with the solitary systems, eventually EVE could add binary star systems in time and perhaps say that "new technology was needed to go to the binary star systems. . ." :D

What does everyone think about this?



This is part of what I dream of when I think of a future EVE Cosmology expansion. In it we get planets that orbit stars properly, binary star systems, nebula effects within systems (not just cosmetic), harvestable comets and all that other cool stuff!

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-06-10 15:13:46 UTC
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
Chung DanYul wrote:
As I was flying about in EVE, I was looking at the scenery and thought. . .

"the majority of star systems in our galaxy are binary - having more than one star. . ."

A solitary star system is actually quite rare. . . but all the star systems are solitary in EVE. . .

Since it is science-fantasy, we can just say. . ."it's just how this galaxy rolls!!!"

We could incorporate new binary star systems in eve, and even make new materials for industrial use come from them. . . theoretically, it is thought that the gravitational anomalies in binary star systems may create new minerals and elements. . .

Without messing with the solitary systems, eventually EVE could add binary star systems in time and perhaps say that "new technology was needed to go to the binary star systems. . ." :D

What does everyone think about this?



This is part of what I dream of when I think of a future EVE Cosmology expansion. In it we get planets that orbit stars properly, binary star systems, nebula effects within systems (not just cosmetic), harvestable comets and all that other cool stuff!

also seamless planet interaction (not fun to manage that from an interface, i want to be down there actually). right now the only games i know which have done the nebula thing are those of the Evochron series(Evochron Legends and Evochron Mercenary).
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2013-06-10 15:49:35 UTC
Have you been to W-space?
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#5 - 2013-06-10 23:32:29 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
Chung DanYul wrote:
As I was flying about in EVE, I was looking at the scenery and thought. . .

"the majority of star systems in our galaxy are binary - having more than one star. . ."

A solitary star system is actually quite rare. . . but all the star systems are solitary in EVE. . .

Since it is science-fantasy, we can just say. . ."it's just how this galaxy rolls!!!"

We could incorporate new binary star systems in eve, and even make new materials for industrial use come from them. . . theoretically, it is thought that the gravitational anomalies in binary star systems may create new minerals and elements. . .

Without messing with the solitary systems, eventually EVE could add binary star systems in time and perhaps say that "new technology was needed to go to the binary star systems. . ." :D

What does everyone think about this?



This is part of what I dream of when I think of a future EVE Cosmology expansion. In it we get planets that orbit stars properly, binary star systems, nebula effects within systems (not just cosmetic), harvestable comets and all that other cool stuff!

also seamless planet interaction (not fun to manage that from an interface, i want to be down there actually). right now the only games i know which have done the nebula thing are those of the Evochron series(Evochron Legends and Evochron Mercenary).



Yes and that too! Just like the atmospheric flight they showed us years ago. While that wasn't entirely seamless, we've seen some big progress in other areas such as the star gates. Eventually we may this illusion of seamless flight with planets (or actual seamless flight).

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind
Velarra
#6 - 2013-06-11 02:04:06 UTC
You want to spend some time in WH / J-space.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2013-06-13 23:39:51 UTC
What really makes this odd is that according to the lore, only binary systems can support stargates. Yet the only binary systems are in the one type of space that does not have stargates.

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Aurette
962348 Corporation
#8 - 2013-07-17 08:49:08 UTC
A binary need not be visible :)

There is even some (maybe limited debate) that Sol is part of a binary system. This links to Nemesis Star theory, that is linked with periodic extinctions, and concerned with gravity variation affects of objects in the outer solar system.

The logic that allows it is that the companion is too small to detect with our technology at the present level. At one end of the spectrum some suggest a brown dwarf only a few order of magnitude above a gas giant and far enough away that the luminocity is not a great factor does or could exist.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2013-07-18 05:46:09 UTC
Aurette wrote:
A binary need not be visible :)

There is even some (maybe limited debate) that Sol is part of a binary system. This links to Nemesis Star theory, that is linked with periodic extinctions, and concerned with gravity variation affects of objects in the outer solar system.

The logic that allows it is that the companion is too small to detect with our technology at the present level. At one end of the spectrum some suggest a brown dwarf only a few order of magnitude above a gas giant and far enough away that the luminocity is not a great factor does or could exist.




Given that we can detect objects of 10^(-5) solar masses at distances of hundreds of light years (look up any of the planet search projects that happen) by gravitational lensing and other methods, Sol cannot have any binary partner. Such a partner would be an object larger than Jupiter.

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Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-07-25 11:24:44 UTC
Not to mention that it would have a clear and measurable gravitational effect.
John Bishop
Forgot to repair
#11 - 2013-07-29 08:40:46 UTC
i could be wrong but i remember reading something in old eve lore that the star gates are tethered somehow to binary systems and use them to slingshot us from one solitary star to the next.... but a trip to a binary via star gate would be one way....

but its been 10 years ago... when i get off work ill dig out my original prima strat guide, i think it was explained in it.......
Amann Karris
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-07-29 14:43:36 UTC
According to the scientific article on stargates, Luminaire is a binary system with a distant brown dwarf. Brown dwarf stars don't support fusion, and are pretty much just huge gas giants. This "star" wouldn't necessarily be visible without knowing where to look, and if it was far enough away, the gravitational effects would be miniscule.

Every habitable star system in New Eden could, concievably, have such a brown dwarf. Another possibility is that stargate technology has advanced and evolved over the years. New technology is popping up in-game as well. Covert ops jump drives, micro jump drives, stuff like that. Technology shouldn't be static when everything in the literature points to active research and development in interstellar travel.