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Tech II Rig BPC Price Advice
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Mistress Rose
Defensores Fidei
#21 - 2013-06-12 15:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mistress Rose
RAW: Great post, sir, and I thank you.

And now....I'm a liar. Lets take the example of the Capital Remote Armor Repair Augmentor II, an actually (maybe) useful capital-sized rig. An ME: 0 PE: 0 BPC requires 88 Intact Armor Plates, which are currenty 11m each @ Jita. This is 968 million ISK.

There are fleeting few useable Capital-size rigs that can be built for under 200m.
RAW23
#22 - 2013-06-12 15:54:28 UTC
S Byerley wrote:

Fair enough. Do you expect the BPC market to move faster? I have to admit I just don't like contracts in general.


That's something I don't have a lot of experience with but I would certainly expect that you would be able to offload the print faster than the finished product, at least if you price the print reasonably. However, given the small number of T2 rig builders I wouldn't expect to get a huge premium for them. The market really dictates things and there just isn't that much demand, so don't expect frantic bidding wars.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-06-12 15:57:57 UTC
Just as a little feedback to the OP

Your post came across fine to me. If I was in that area I would happily take you up on your offer. It's always good to chat with a specialist and most specialists appreciate that ripping someone off is a one time deal. Fair treatment doesn't draw in as much profit in the short term but it usually comes out ahead in the long term. You sound trustworthy.

Stop worrying about the morons. The internet is full of them. Arguing with them whilst understandable just derails your purpose.
I advise giving a small sample of advice; maybe let us know what's moving fastest on the market, what sort of sell prices. What's hot, what's not. What sort of margin you will make if you buy off advice seekers - and the waiting time they will probably skip by selling to you straight. Maybe offer a swap service if you have a lot of throughput and detail your charges for this.

Sell yourself a little :) Show off your knowledge a little bit. Be honest(ish) about your profit, and you will attract some business.
Forget the morons.
Good luck to you :)
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#24 - 2013-06-12 16:01:27 UTC
Mistress Rose wrote:
RAW: Great post, sir, and I thank you.

And now....I'm a liar. Lets take the example of the Capital Remote Armor Repair Augmentor II, an actually (maybe) useful capital-sized rig. An ME: 0 PE: 0 BPC requires 88 Intact Armor Plates, which are currenty 11m each @ Jita. This is 968 million ISK.

There are fleeting few useable Capital-size rigs that can be built for under 200m.


If by fleeting few you mean the ~90% (everything but armor rigs) that don't require intact plates; sure.
Mistress Rose
Defensores Fidei
#25 - 2013-06-12 16:04:34 UTC
virm:

I'll do just that.

This morning, a very nice chap saw my thread and stopped by my chatroom. He had a certain capital missile-rig BPC.
I gave him my exact build cost and my best guess as to what I would sell it for, giving him a decent idea of the margin he could expect to make in a reasonable time. My worry was that that particular rig wouldn't sell quickly. We discussed which ships/fits would be a user of said rig.

I gave him an estimate for a quick-sale contract. I then advised that maybe he should hold that particular BPC to allow
caps still fitting large rigs to be lost in the ongoing geopolitical process in null, and that a 4-6 month timeframe might
be workable. I didn't offer to buy the BPC myself, and if its on contracts at my suggested price, my guess is it'll sell to someone, and probably someone who wants to build that rig for their own ship.
Mistress Rose
Defensores Fidei
#26 - 2013-06-12 16:08:02 UTC
Byerley:

Presently, only armor and shield rigs will sell quickly...along with Capital Capacitor Control circuits. These just happen to require the most expensive salvage parts. Most of the really cheap capital-sized rigs simply aren't useful for capitals. I would love CCP to address this, but, they are always willing to let us sort out the fittings we want, and leave all the options on the table.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#27 - 2013-06-12 16:19:07 UTC
Mistress Rose wrote:
Byerley:

Presently, only armor and shield rigs will sell quickly...along with Capital Capacitor Control circuits. These just happen to require the most expensive salvage parts. Most of the really cheap capital-sized rigs simply aren't useful for capitals. I would love CCP to address this, but, they are always willing to let us sort out the fittings we want, and leave all the options on the table.



Capital Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II (for example), runs under 80m at current market prices
Mistress Rose
Defensores Fidei
#28 - 2013-06-12 22:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mistress Rose
Byerley:

Yes, the shield resist rigs are fairly cheap. However, I have a Capital Anti-Kinetic up for sale, and posted as such in the sell orders forums. I got a rather fast reply saying nobody fits shield resist rigs to caps. There have been some sales of capital shield resist rigs in Jita (not mine), so someone is buying them. I don't expect mine to sell quickly...and my margin is very thin.

I don't know enough about capitals to make good judgments about which rigs are used. I lived in a C5 WH where all our caps used Large CCC IIs. My Rorqual had Cargo IIs and Aux Thrusters for motoring between hangars a bit faster. I know armor and weapon mods are used, but again, the only basis I have for the new capital rigs is what has sold so far. They may have sold for flips, they may be ftted. I just don't know.

This is precisely why I talk to everyone and discuss, prospectively, which fits might use a specific rig.
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