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T2 ammo in Faction/Officer weapons!
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feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#41 - 2013-06-11 10:06:32 UTC
Restrict the T2 guns to ONLY use T2 ammo. Big smile
It follows T1 = general, T2 = specialised, provides a genuine reason to consider T1 over T2 when fitting your ship and gives the faction guns a useful role.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#42 - 2013-06-11 10:50:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Meditril
In my opinion two changes should be applied to faction guns:

a) Reduce their costs via LP store significantly, taking LP + ISK + Tags + whatever needed to get it into account a faction gun should not cost more then 2 to 3 times of a T2 gun of the same type.

b) Faction guns should get buffed their optimal and falloff by adding 30%.

This would result in something which is worth to buy while it still has slightly less performance DPS than T2 guns which is on the other hand compensated by more range if compared to T2 guns with T1 ammo or less range but better tracking than T2 guns with T2 long range ammo.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#43 - 2013-06-11 10:58:22 UTC
If you have spent the time training to be able to use T2 ammo, then you should be able to use it in the appropriate Faction weapon if you wish. It is utterly stupid that you can't.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-06-11 11:03:18 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Paikis wrote:
You spend a lot of ISK for faction/officer guns why shouldn't they be slightly better than T2?


Ah, here we have the "if it costs more it should be better" argument. Well no, it shouldn't, sorry, sometimes paying more really doesn't get you better stuff, just more expensive stuff..


Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

No, no. You're right. Here let me pay 200x the amount for something that is patently worse... said no one ever.

except all apple users.

I should buy an Ishtar.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#45 - 2013-06-11 11:25:32 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
except all apple users.


Can open. Worms everywhere!

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-06-11 11:35:48 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
I see your point, but I would rather they nerf faction modules like the case you put there instead of seeing faction guns buffed to be able to use t2 ammo.

Tbh some faction guns are pretty much equal (if not practically worse) to reasonably skilled T2 guns even before you look at their price, and sometimes even before you take T2 ammo into account. Nerf can very well will push them below meta4s.


i dont mean guns, all other faction modules

deadspace should remain superior but there arent any deadspace guns afaik.

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