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Spending to much time finding content vs actually playing the game

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#21 - 2013-06-08 05:39:11 UTC
Torrentula Chromus wrote:
I'm only in highsec since im still new.

Is there a rule about new players leaving high sec or something?
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-06-08 05:41:58 UTC
Ioci wrote:


Neither are game companies.

Carry on with your WoW haters campaign.


Whoa.

I maybe critical of CCP here and other game companies and their decisions, but isn't that a tad over the top?

Gamers are varied in their tastes. But those trying to get the best bang for the buck aren't at war with the publishers itself. I don't play or invest in games to watch with glee for them to fail. I want them to grow, and be something that can be enjoyed by all -- not power factions; not one play style; not some special interest. But for that guy who buys a game at Wal-Mart and starts anew.

If anyone entitled of anything is a great game.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Torrentula Chromus
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-06-08 08:31:08 UTC
Odds are its a wormhole. if not its a ded site I cant do in the ship im flying. If I can enter it odds are someone else is already there. If not they will be right behind me. Exploration in high sec officially broken. To bad I paid for six months on this game. Was fun while it lasted.

Read a post earlier about guy said this game is going to plex as you go by forcing people to low sec and becoming a pvp fest. I believe him. PvE is dead.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#24 - 2013-06-08 08:59:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaju Enki
Torrentula Chromus wrote:
Odds are its a wormhole. if not its a ded site I cant do in the ship im flying. If I can enter it odds are someone else is already there. If not they will be right behind me. Exploration in high sec officially broken. To bad I paid for six months on this game. Was fun while it lasted.

Read a post earlier about guy said this game is going to plex as you go by forcing people to low sec and becoming a pvp fest. I believe him. PvE is dead.


PvE?? Shocked That's a themepark playstyle concept that doesn't exist neither makes any type of sense in a game like EvE Online. Exploration, like all other parts of the game, is a sandbox feature, not "PvE".

Either you like it or not, this game is all about player interaction, interaction that affects how other players play and interact with both the game and other players. What you do not get to do in the sandbox is decide who you will not interact with. You can choose to interact with player A, even if player A would rather not interact with you. They have little say in the matter. They can make an effort to avoid you, but that in itself is an act of interaction. You have forced them to recognize you, take heed of you. This is what makes the butterfly effect possible in EvE Online.

So embrace the sandbox, or go crawl back to your kindergarten themepark mmo-rpg where your single player experience dreams will be fulfilled.

The Tears Must Flow

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2013-06-08 09:07:42 UTC
Some seem to think that hunting is not content.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#26 - 2013-06-08 09:09:56 UTC
Finding content is in itself content. Nice logic here.

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Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#27 - 2013-06-08 09:10:19 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Some seem to think that hunting is not content.

2 minutes grrr, ♥

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Lexmana
#28 - 2013-06-08 09:23:23 UTC
Was coming here to say what baltec and the princes already said but also want to add that you seem to be reluctant to leave highsec. How can you call that exploration?
Julius Rigel
#29 - 2013-06-08 09:29:58 UTC
Torrentula Chromus wrote:
Seems like all im doing iis flying around
No...? In a spaceship game?! Flying in a spaceship game?! That can't be right.

Hey, have you tried missions? They're sort of like combat signature thingies, but you can get as many as you like from agents.

Or you could go to nullsec and chain belt rats, they're kind of like the rats in combat sites, except they're surrounded by asteroids.

There is also w-space, where there are combat sites with sleepers inside. Sleepers are like rats, but better in everything that makes a rat a rat, you could say.

Or you could try something else not rat-related, just to see if there's something out there you would enjoy. Hell, make up your own content, then you'll always have fun.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-06-08 09:42:22 UTC
You should try moving to a new area, it happens that one a more aggressive move to the area where you are living. Several times i have tried that a "good" area over night turns extremely competitive, and i have found that it's the easiest to just move.

You can also try going to low-sec, it is a good place for exploration if you can fly a battlecruiser with medium or better skills. You can find low-sec areas where each gate i not hell camped.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#31 - 2013-06-08 10:48:09 UTC
The whole idea about hisec PVE being frustrating is because you are competing for scraps with an awefull amount of people. That is why player corporations try and gain a foothold in systems outside of hisec. If you can scare away the competition by sheer presence, all the sites are yours. Or at the very least, you have the option of shooting at the competition. The new exploration system makes this all the more so, as more loot can be extracted with the help of a friend. Maybe look into a lowsec corp?

PS: If you are frustrated about finding nothing but wormholes, the reverse is true from the inside. Just a side note. Smile
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-06-08 10:52:14 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
PvE?? Shocked That's a themepark playstyle concept that doesn't exist neither makes any type of sense in a game like EvE Online. Exploration, like all other parts of the game, is a sandbox feature, not "PvE".


Exploration is PvE until another guy shoots you over the loot, then it's called PvP.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#33 - 2013-06-08 11:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Karak Terrel
Torrentula Chromus wrote:
Odds are its a wormhole. if not its a ded site I cant do in the ship im flying. If I can enter it odds are someone else is already there. If not they will be right behind me. Exploration in high sec officially broken. To bad I paid for six months on this game. Was fun while it lasted.

Read a post earlier about guy said this game is going to plex as you go by forcing people to low sec and becoming a pvp fest. I believe him. PvE is dead.

The irony...by competing with others for sites you already engage in PvP (Player v.s. Player). PvP doesn't always mean combat.

I really suggest you assemble a cheap scan frigate (start with everything t1) and try lowsec where the competition isn't that big (PvP gets easier Blink). You will find out it isn't that risky after all and you bring more money back than you loose because you occasionally loose your frigate. And you could probably also have fun while doing it..

edit:
Watch this if you're still scared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FprVoqd_-XA
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-06-08 11:13:37 UTC
Torrentula Chromus wrote:
I'm only in highsec since im still new.


1st: get out of there ASAP, find some low sec FW corp and start learning frigate fights, make tons of isk with FW lp's, eventually keep probing sites in low sec (yummy how much they drop)

2nd: new/noob/young player is not a problem in Eve, you're not stuck in to level grinding but skills and those if you do it right can offer you a great number of opportunities to have fun in Eve and quite fast actually without playing 24h a day.

You're just doing it wrong like most of us did at some point. Don't expect to find you uber corp immediately, this might take some time and tries but do it for your own fun in playing the game, high sec is the most boring place to be or do whatever.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne

Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#35 - 2013-06-08 11:15:10 UTC
Imagine Columbus's frustration when he didn't find America 50km off Portugal's coast but had to go all the way around half the globe.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#36 - 2013-06-08 11:19:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaju Enki
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
PvE?? Shocked That's a themepark playstyle concept that doesn't exist neither makes any type of sense in a game like EvE Online. Exploration, like all other parts of the game, is a sandbox feature, not "PvE".


Exploration is PvE until another guy shoots you over the loot, then it's called PvP.


Again another clueless themeparker post from the WoW expert, there is no such thing as "PvE" in this game, and shootings ships is not the "PvP" part of the game. EvE is not split in half like the simplistic kindergarten themepark mmo-rpg games you play.

After the login screen, every game system involves some form of player vs player competitive interaction. EvE Online is a sandbox mmo-rpg game, it's the last of it's kind, that's the secret of it's longevity. EvE Online will still be played 10 years from now.

The Tears Must Flow

Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-06-08 13:08:04 UTC
I went on a good roam about high the other night and found a few combat sites.

pity i found them in my cheetah but oh well...

forums.  serious business.

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#38 - 2013-06-08 13:16:50 UTC
I could war dec ya and make some content?...send me the war fee and I'll help ya out.
Lexmana
#39 - 2013-06-08 13:22:00 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
PvE?? Shocked That's a themepark playstyle concept that doesn't exist neither makes any type of sense in a game like EvE Online. Exploration, like all other parts of the game, is a sandbox feature, not "PvE".


Exploration is PvE until another guy shoots you over the loot, then it's called PvP.

If that would be true ... why would OP have such tough time finding sites to explore?
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