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Torpedo Typhoon FI PVE, Armor or shield

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Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#1 - 2013-06-07 23:20:19 UTC
Looking for a torpedo fit typhoon fleet issue I could use for lvl 4s and anom ratting.


I usually fight angels, which puts the armor tank at disadvantage. Although my armor tanking skills are better then shield tanking. Can use t2 Torp launchers/all t2 mods. If you wanna throw some faction mods on it I'm interested in that also.

So x those fits up, torpedos armor or shield tanked phoon. Whatcha got for me?
hellcane
Never Back Down
#2 - 2013-06-08 00:02:50 UTC
At this point, cruise > torp 95% of the time, especially on anything but a golem. As for armor vs shield, IMO shielding the fleet photon is the only way to go
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#3 - 2013-06-08 00:11:24 UTC
hellcane wrote:
At this point, cruise > torp 95% of the time, especially on anything but a golem. As for armor vs shield, IMO shielding the fleet photon is the only way to go


Figured as much, however I'm looking to make a torp fit. Any shield fits you could post would be appreciated
hellcane
Never Back Down
#4 - 2013-06-08 00:27:27 UTC
At work, but:

DMG in highs
Booster, resists, and a painter in mids.
DMG in lows

Fitting reqs of torps will ruin you.
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#5 - 2013-06-08 01:00:33 UTC
As of now, I threw this together- need some feedback

6 x T2 Torp launcher
1x Probe launcher

3 x named TP
1x Afterburner 100mn named
1x Heavy Cap booster named

3x BCU named
1x LAR named
2x Explosive Hardener II
1x Kinetic Hardener II

Rigs-
1 large anti kinetic pump
1 large anti explosive pump
1 large Auxiliary nano pump

Med/Light drones t2 (sentries/heavies also if can use)



This has been doing really well vs angels. Can switch hardeners depending on missions. Tight fit requires named mods.

Feedback definitely welcome!
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-08 19:11:36 UTC
when I was messing around in EFT with a torpedo scorpion the DPS was terrible against cruiser size ships. Maybe I was doing something wrong but 1500dps became like 70dps against a stationary tengu which I basically attributed to signature size vs explosion radius.

I even had a explosion radius reducing rig. I dont see anything like that on your build. How are you killing ships smaller than BS with torpedoes?

and why are cruise misiles better than torpedoes now?
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#7 - 2013-06-08 19:46:38 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
when I was messing around in EFT with a torpedo scorpion the DPS was terrible against cruiser size ships. Maybe I was doing something wrong but 1500dps became like 70dps against a stationary tengu which I basically attributed to signature size vs explosion radius.

I even had a explosion radius reducing rig. I dont see anything like that on your build. How are you killing ships smaller than BS with torpedoes?

and why are cruise misiles better than torpedoes now?



Been popping frigs just fine. Target pain em and shoot. I probably need an explosion radius rig, and I might consider putting a web with 2 tps instead of 3tps.

If you were killing a Tengu that means you were doing pvp, which would require a whole different fit.
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#8 - 2013-06-24 07:44:57 UTC
Still looking for feedback
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#9 - 2013-06-24 09:14:02 UTC  |  Edited by: John Ratcliffe
Arajo Taranian wrote:
Still looking for feedback


You've been given feedback. It's a bad idea so use3 Cruise already FFS!

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2013-06-24 10:22:05 UTC
Arajo Taranian wrote:
hellcane wrote:
At this point, cruise > torp 95% of the time, especially on anything but a golem. As for armor vs shield, IMO shielding the fleet photon is the only way to go


Figured as much, however I'm looking to make a torp fit. Any shield fits you could post would be appreciated


I strongly echo the advice to go Cruise for PvE. Torps really need a range bonus like the Ravenkind get to work. Additionally, the Floon depends on mobility:sig for a significant part of it's tank. Additionally, it's pretty tight on fittings.

Given that you'll be getting ~900 DPS from Furies, you're not exactly losing out on that front. Possibly your EFT is outdated; Cruise Missiles got a massive boost with Odyssey (+25% base damage, +5% RoF)

Anyway as regards the fit, I'd start with something like:

6x Cruise II,
RF 100Mn AB, Gist Large Shield booster, 2x Invuln, PWNAGE
DCU II, 3x BCU II, 3x DDA II

Then put in as many Rigors as will fit, and put in CCCs or Cap Semis in any remaining rig slots.

Sentries, warriors, ECM drones to taste.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#11 - 2013-06-24 22:54:55 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
Arajo Taranian wrote:
Still looking for feedback


You've been given feedback. It's a bad idea so use3 Cruise already FFS!


this guy is a lil mad cus I alrdy stated im not looking for a cruise missle fit. Cmon buddy, reading comprehension is a vital skill in EvE. Throw yourself off a bridge.
Arajo Taranian
Holding Corp 118
#12 - 2013-06-24 22:56:24 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Arajo Taranian wrote:
hellcane wrote:
At this point, cruise > torp 95% of the time, especially on anything but a golem. As for armor vs shield, IMO shielding the fleet photon is the only way to go


Figured as much, however I'm looking to make a torp fit. Any shield fits you could post would be appreciated


I strongly echo the advice to go Cruise for PvE. Torps really need a range bonus like the Ravenkind get to work. Additionally, the Floon depends on mobility:sig for a significant part of it's tank. Additionally, it's pretty tight on fittings.

Given that you'll be getting ~900 DPS from Furies, you're not exactly losing out on that front. Possibly your EFT is outdated; Cruise Missiles got a massive boost with Odyssey (+25% base damage, +5% RoF)

Anyway as regards the fit, I'd start with something like:

6x Cruise II,
RF 100Mn AB, Gist Large Shield booster, 2x Invuln, PWNAGE
DCU II, 3x BCU II, 3x DDA II

Then put in as many Rigors as will fit, and put in CCCs or Cap Semis in any remaining rig slots.

Sentries, warriors, ECM drones to taste.


Thanks for the advice! Informative stuff with good information. However I'm still looking for a torp fit.
stoicfaux
#13 - 2013-06-25 03:46:27 UTC
I'll play your silly game, where silly is defined as:
* I think you'll do more realized DPS with Meta 4 cruise launchers than T2 torps,
* the TFI is really tight on CPU, which makes shield tanking difficult,
* if you use torps, you'll have squat for range since the TFI doesn't get a missile speed bonus,
* missile range rigs incur a CPU penalty, and you're already short on CPU
* even with missile range rigs, torps still have squat for range,
* but if you use TPs instead of rigor/flare rigs, then you don't have mids for a shield tank, prop mode and cap booster,
* so you "have" to use rigor/flare rigs
* thus you need to MWD around to get into torp range,

Seriously, on a TFI, I would use meta 4 cruise launchers over T2 torps for level 4s, even against Angels.


[Typhoon Fleet Issue, torps]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Inertia Stabilizers II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II

100MN Microwarpdrive II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Explosive Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400

Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


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