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ISD Tyrozan
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ISD Alliance
#301 - 2014-02-19 18:26:35 UTC
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#302 - 2014-02-19 18:33:23 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
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Mr Higgs
Boson Science
#303 - 2014-03-01 05:18:30 UTC
Is there any chance we could have the radial menu work in the market to get to the buy/sell/modify order menus?
Doctorkaba
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#304 - 2014-03-03 15:19:13 UTC
My main issue with trying to integrate the radial menu for all my activities is that when I use the radial menu to activate a gate, for example factional warfare plexes, if I am not out of warp or "just" stopped warp it wont activate, i will have to wait a split second before I am able to activate it.

However using the selected item window allows me for one to spam the heck out of the activate button, but if i am "just" exiting warp, then it feels like it queues up my activation and will activate.

To try to explain it in other words, if I am exiting warp the selected item menu is more reliable and faster than the radial menu.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#305 - 2014-03-14 16:42:58 UTC
since deployables are proliferating and continuing to proliferate, it would be pretty good to have a scoop option for MTUs, depots, and cans in space.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#306 - 2014-03-15 12:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Is it possible to map scripts for Omnidirectional~/Tracking Computer/Sensor Booster to a special radial menu for these modules, in the style of the scanner/camera button.

I find it highly annoying and time wasting to use the right click menu for these scripts and I think that the radial menu could provide good improvement for the usability of the scripts.

I added a small mockup.

I also think that the Drone Radial menu standard options and those under the "+" tab should be interchanged. You are more likely to send your drones around or recall them, or send them to attack, than approach them or check their stats or info. So what's currently under the "+" tab should be visible by default and what's not visible by default should go under the "+" tab.

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El Geo
Warcrows
THE OLD SCHOOL
#307 - 2014-03-17 13:16:22 UTC
Is there a way to turn the radial menu off? only its annoying as hell and I personally find it useless.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#308 - 2014-03-17 13:42:18 UTC
El Geo wrote:
Is there a way to turn the radial menu off? only its annoying as hell and I personally find it useless.


Set the activation timer in the options to long and you should not see it again.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#309 - 2014-03-25 15:39:58 UTC
What about radial menu for the PI tab in the Science & Industry window? With options to warp to the planet, warp to the POCO, access the POCO, view the planet in Planet View, etc. The right click menu is not really a joy to use there.

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SpaceSaft
Almost Dangerous
Wolves Amongst Strangers
#310 - 2014-03-27 14:45:58 UTC  |  Edited by: SpaceSaft
Quote:
Have you run into any objects in space that have no primary action but you wish they did?


No. This might not concern you but have you given a thought to the fact that it's only useful if done consistently?

Right now if I want to do anything with any object ever, I can right click it.

WIth the radial menu I can only interact with things that are in space or the over or the bookmark folder if I'm not mistaken. Not even corp members in local chat. So yeah. That. Apart from everything else you can do with right click in space that you can't with the radial menu like, for example, accessing bookmarks or fly to an installation in space without using the overview or turning my camera.
S'totan
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#311 - 2014-04-02 16:47:30 UTC
A radial menu option when holding it down own ship for a jump to button I think would be universally loved. Much like the radial menu on a titan or blops when jumping through.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#312 - 2014-04-11 07:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
CCP karkur wrote:
Vesan Terakol wrote:
Can we get it to work on the bookmarks in the people in places list? would be really nice, since getting bookmarks in overview is such a technical issue.

It should actually already work on them... if it doesn't, I must have some fixing to do

It dose, its a little clunky but perfectly functional, love the work by the way.

Might ye think of working ammo selection into this?

same system but with the icons instead of ui functions, with close range ammo far left(or @12 whatever makes sense to ye) with progressively longer range ammo going clockwise? just a thought but it might make ammo selection with regards range a little easier on newbs (and dumbass's like myself)

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DetKhord Saisio
Seniors Clan
#313 - 2014-04-14 05:51:55 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Indalecia wrote:
One very annoying thing is that when the radial menu opens by mistake, it doesn't close itself when you move the mouse far away from it, which is very annoying. As far as I know the only way to close it without doing an action is to hit the escape key, which is odd for a mouse gesture.

EDIT: also, when you do use the action from the radial menu, the pointer warps back to the center of the button you clicked (even when it was not on it), which is counter-intuitive and intrusive in my opinion.
The radial menu is so annoying.

Copying bookmarks or even working within the places/bookmarks window typically caused the radial menu to open, so eventually finding the option to turn the radial menu off (or if this is more correct, increase the timer until radial menu pops up) was a huge relief.

If I never have to use the radial menu as first implemented, I would appreciate it. Not sure who came up with that radial menu timer mechanic, but if someone can just quietly delete all the code for the radial menu I would not cry for a second. Just get rid of all of that fail.
SubStandard Rin
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#314 - 2014-04-15 11:02:53 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Hi all,

I hope we are all liking Odyssey and all it brings, and of course that we are all using the new Radial Menu Smile

I wanted to check in with you guys, and see if how it was treating you and if you have any comments on the actions we have in it.Smile
  • Have you run into any objects in space that have no primary action but you wish they did?
  • Are there objects that you wished had a different primary action?
  • Do you feel any objects are missing very commonly used actions (either as primary action, or in second layer).


We have put a lot of thought into the Radial Menu actions and are fairly happy with it as it is today. We do recognized that we might have missed some actions and would like to hear your thoughts, and then evaluate if we should make some minor changes Smile



Edit: this is not thread about you wanting to disable it, it's already possible to increase the delay and bind it to a different key so it really shouldn't get in your way if you don't want it Smile



One thing that bugs me a lot is not the Radial menu but the old menu interface
its Jumpbridges / Titan bridges -- why do i have to right-click jump
why not bind "Jump" functions that in the main interface to JB & Titan bridges?

Then one thing you should get applauds for is that the Radial menu is BETTER then the old menu when it comes to Quickly Bridge a fleet ... tell everyone to use the Radial menu on the titan
start bridge (the icon change) and you can all jump by releasing mouse button.

this is a TON better then the old drop down menu no its not up yet ... wait for voice com ..... if your to fast it bugs out .... I never seen the Radial menu way of bridging "mess up". and its Simpler to use .....


Now from the Bad/Good feedback, back to the topic.
I would like the ability to customize my radial menu totally
One thing i would love to have on it is a "Book mark this location" function...... that would be awesome when burning perches

The ability to bind drone commands to radial menu would be neat.....
Drone-Attack "target"
Drone-Assist "target"
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#315 - 2014-04-29 13:29:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Sgt Ocker
Rivr Luzade wrote:
El Geo wrote:
Is there a way to turn the radial menu off? only its annoying as hell and I personally find it useless.


Set the activation timer in the options to long and you should not see it again.

Yeah, not quite that simple. I set it to as long as possible delay and still get the damn thing popping up sometimes.
If it did it all the time I could actually submit a support ticket but it is so random and usually happens at the most inconvenient times. Being asked by support "how to repeat the problem for testing" is just really annoying when it is a totally random thing.
It really seems like to delay function is just totally random, no matter what you set it to it randomly over rides the setting.

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Nardkick
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#316 - 2014-05-02 23:50:52 UTC
this is not a rant. but a reasonable request to allow the removal of the radial menu altogether with the game settings menu. I find that this only opens inappropriately when clicking on an object, and often enough I begin to approach something or target it incorrectly. I never use this on purpose.

Please, CCP, please allow us the freedom to chose to have this or not.

Thanks,
N

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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#317 - 2014-05-06 09:45:21 UTC
Batelle wrote:
since deployables are proliferating and continuing to proliferate, it would be pretty good to have a scoop option for MTUs, depots, and cans in space.


Already on the RM, I've used it, I was there Big smile

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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#318 - 2014-05-06 09:47:02 UTC
Nardkick wrote:
this is not a rant. but a reasonable request to allow the removal of the radial menu altogether with the game settings menu. I find that this only opens inappropriately when clicking on an object, and often enough I begin to approach something or target it incorrectly. I never use this on purpose.

Please, CCP, please allow us the freedom to chose to have this or not.

Thanks,
N


Set the Delay all the way to the far right and it'll never appear again.

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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#319 - 2014-05-06 09:49:07 UTC
It may have been requested by someone other than me before but:

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I'm thinking:

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Rename Ship\Container
Repackage Ship\Item\Container

All the things but even Drone Bay\Cargo Bay and Fitting Screen from RM menu would be a good start.

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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#320 - 2014-05-06 10:28:12 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
Nardkick wrote:
this is not a rant. but a reasonable request to allow the removal of the radial menu altogether with the game settings menu. I find that this only opens inappropriately when clicking on an object, and often enough I begin to approach something or target it incorrectly. I never use this on purpose.

Please, CCP, please allow us the freedom to chose to have this or not.

Thanks,
N


Set the Delay all the way to the far right and it'll never appear again.

Sorry - Not true - Delay set to maximum - Radial menu still pops up.

Needs a Disable / Enable, Check box in General Settings.

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