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This.

Was the gatefire sound intentionally removed? If so, doesn't that go against your stated goal of giving the player more audio clues as to what is going on around them?

How can the gate cause so much racket for the person using it and not make a peep for everyone else?

First, I want to say the efforts you are doing are admirable and amazing. So, take this with the idea that I want a better experience.


#1, GATE ACTIVATION IN BOUND

Please, add the Gate Activation on the inbound gate again. I was really hoping this was just a mistake and an oversight. But we really need an AUDIO queue that is more obvious than a static-y gate visual when something comes into system from the gate we are camping. It is way too subtle, and as someone who multi-boxes, it's impossible for me to know anymore while I'm on a gate that something happened on my other client.


Undocking :

The lights flashing in the Amarr station (the one I dock in the most) is barely noticeably really. I can't even see it. You should work on some more visual queues. Maybe this will come with new docking hangars that have been whispered quietly.


Low Health Warning :

I really don't like the low health pulse warning. The initial "BAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEP" when you are going past 25% is great. But the pulsing sound is just an additional distraction and nuisance. Once I hear that I am low on health, I have other things I want to listen to (such as my fleetmates screaming for help) rather than pulsing sounds. I don't need to be reminded about this with annoying persistent sounds.


I think the overall message to take away from this is that the idea of "Extended audio notifications" is bad.

The Crimewatch sounds that are ticking down, in themselves aren't bad sounds to have. But the .. "tick, tick, tick, tick, TEEEEK" sound is annoying.

It should just be a clear distinct sound that goes, "CHIKKA". That's it, it's over. I heard it. Done.

The low health sounds should be as they were only. "WAAAAAAAAAEEEEE". It's done. It's over with. No "Blaap, blaaap, blaaap, blaaap, blaaaap". I don't need to, nor want to know anything more than, "Ok, i'm below 25% health".

Constantly extending these audio queues is bad, we have lots of things we want to listen to on our voice comms, on our targeting sounds, on our guns going off, on ticking, bleeping, blapping, that we don't need something that totally takes our attention away for 3 seconds as it decides that it is super freaking important enough to take up all my audio attention as it goes "BLAAAp, Blaaaap, blaaaaap, blaaap".

Thanks for taking this feedback into consideration.

^^^^^This.

The shield/armor/hull warning sounds are hard to hear with no way to adjust the volume higher or lower; without increasing the master/world volume higher which can then make other sounds too loud. They sound to me like water dripping out of a faucet; with a constant drip; drip; drip sound.

If you are armor tanking your ship; the shield warning sound is going off during the whole engagement; instead of the one time when it passes the warning threshold that is set. The same with any of the warning sounds. They should go off when you pass the threshold and then stop; unless rep past that point and they drop again.

The jump sounds are too loud with no way to adjust the volume setting. So again this means that the only way to adjust the volume is with the world/master setting and cause other important sounds to be either too quiet.

Thought I'd look back in a day later, see what the dev response was to feedback thread, yippee zilch, just another couple of pages with 2 fairly common themes in them from the few people that actually have sound turned on.

Seriously CCP, at least bother to login and troll by saying "this is how it is now, your ideas are **** so htfu", or better yet engage in dialog as to why you did things and how you could improve them. But then I suppose that'd be striving for excellence in everything, guess not interested in that

Hello?

Sound team?

Make some noise here please?

Hi there,

LOVING some of the new effects. But specific to sound, ROXGenghis nailed it. In addition:

- I had no idea what the odd blooping noise was when I was doing a plex until I read this thread , I think it's the 'you're taking damage' sound. That can go, it's just annoying and a bit stupid

- The blip blip blip noise related to amber coloured NPC aggression can go, don't use it don't want it don't like it.

- I turn music off just because I don't find it very interesting

- Sometimes I turn sound off completely because of station sounds. I know they go quieter after 30 seconds or something, but remember the joke 'eve is the prettiest spreadsheet you'll ever play'? Well when in station oftentimes I am tying to concentrate and do things that need my brain, and the station background noise is too distracting. I would very much like to be able to disable the ambient station background noises. I suspect I am not alone in this but maybe I am.

Fundamentally if I recall the space lore, the sounds in space are all generated by my own ship for the purposes of situational awareness. Therefore if my ship computer notices a gate fire it makes a noise that should make me put down my cereal and turn off Nickelodeon and pay attention. I don't think it's doing a great job of that at the moment.

Indeed, there is sublte differences but they aren't consistent which renders them obsolete. it may just be that the different sound clips didn't get assigned correctly or that it's using the RNG when it shouldn't, great to get more info on this.

Irony.

The sound team's code communicates too much, too often, but the sound team itself, not at all.

There's lots of feedback here Team Klang, despite the non-threadnaught status. Can you at least let us know you're paying attention?

I suppose you are entitled to the occasional day off ;)

Thanks for the response and I'm very relieved you are going to reinstate the gatefire sound!

And since I have your attention, was there a reason the decloaking sound was removed a few years ago? It was also a very useful audio cue. I could live without a sound for losing gate cloak, but it would be absolutely wonderful to have a sound for cloaking devices.

Sorry, but I don't know which sound that is, I have only been with CCP a year, so I cannot tell which one it is, BUT I will check it out, it must still be in the system and I'll check it out and discuss with the director why it was removed.
if it needs a new sound, then fine - if the old one is fine, then also fine - but one thing that needs to be taken into account is that I am just the designer - I still have a director of audio and even art director and some other people to respond to before anything goes in or out of the game - so it's not my call, though I do have something to say of course.

And you are totally right, as this was one of the major points in the blog and points of all sound in Odyssey "audio cues" and audio as a tool to use, so for sure this is an important cue.



Thank you.
I have gotten some info from the engine about health of the ship in general, but I have not used them yet. it is kind of my "wet dream" that we will have something that warns the player properly, but one thing that I would like was to be able to multibox, so that you will have the ability to tell if it's the currently active window that is low on anything or if it's another client window.
but that will take some work! and has tons of dependencies out of my hands.
But trust me when I say, that there were some things that got lost in the communication process, right before release and some graphics were taken out, some were added and so on - and if my audio code is dependent on the graphics, then things can get lost. If you know about audio visual theories, then the adding of more graphics can result in the sound having to be not as audible as before but have the same effect, but if the graphics are then removed we get what we have now, a way too low and weird warning system, so this is being looked into asap. and is already fixed and ready for the first patch going out. (I will be back from holiday right before this, so I have time to fix "some" of this and go over it an extra time)

you are supposed to hear drones firing, but within a very limited range only - but it could be a bug, I'll investigate - some ships, whenever graphics or anything is changed - some code may get lost and so on and if I'm not informed in time or properly then some things can go buggy without my knowledge - so I am VERY dependent on your information.

I know about the music, it's something that we discuss quite often - the removal of the jukebox had it's reasons to some aesthetics and some other things which to me is totally fine, but then the problem occurs, that players who may have had favorite tracks in EVE, don't fly in that area of space where they are played.

CCP RealX is looking into this as he agrees that this is a problem.
yet you can visit our soundcloud.com page and listen to the music, I think that if using a 3'rd party player it should be for none EVE music - so we have discussed that some tracks (the more famous or favorite ones) are played in more types of systems.
But it will require more discussions on the subject and it's the directors call - so there is not much I can do about it, apart from taking sides and argue some of the causes you state whenever we are discussing the future of EVE audio (all the time).