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Does anyone else have this scanning "problem"...?

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Remy Nolen
Sama Guild
#21 - 2013-06-10 08:01:03 UTC
Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:
used to be if you sorted by 'time' (you know the column that shown how long the probes still have), you would get erratic things happening. idk how you would do that with the new interface, however.


This or size.
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-06-10 11:49:42 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
Protip: Always make a video of a bug if they cant reproduce it but it can be shown.

The bug is clearly because its sorting on the Time/Age column rather than the Probe name column. Then depending on computers and magical number keeping, when the timers tick and the probe age column updates, deciding the age of probes gets funky due to precision issues. In this case since all probes were "launched" at the same time, they have the same age in seconds but theres probably milliseconds or more precision not being displayed. It never appeared in the old scanner because probes could never be launched in the same second. So sorting on age worked fine.

CCP Paradox wrote:
Got a bug report. As many times as I have tried to reproduce this, I just can't.
But, we can put some preventive measure in place to stop this. Hopefully the fix will be in on Monday's client patch.
Thanks for the bug reports (by the way, this is a bug and not a petition Hulasikali Walla. Filing the right report really helps us)


tl;dr Lock the sort to Probe Name column, problem solved. In fact if by default its already sorting by Probe Name, its possible the old client settings for the window carried over for sort by Age since the older UI had the column headers to sort.

I have concluded that this man is talking way too much sense and therefore must be a witch.

CCP Paradox - Please try out the above suggestion which will hopefully make it into today's patch. I dont get back from work for another 7 hours so if anyone else can check before then and report back that would be great.
Hulasikali Walla
Brave Nubs
#23 - 2013-06-10 18:06:53 UTC
Probes still moving Blink
I'll wait for the next patch.
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-06-10 18:29:08 UTC
Yep, still moving. Paradox, you let me down bud Sad
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#25 - 2013-06-11 11:20:36 UTC
Completely clean eve off your HD and reinstall.
Hulasikali Walla
Brave Nubs
#26 - 2013-06-11 12:51:55 UTC
Adriana Nolen wrote:
Completely clean eve off your HD and reinstall.


Yes but first
I'll start by cleanning the settings here --> C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility\settings

That should do the trick
Justice Angel
Themis Argonauts
#27 - 2013-06-11 13:07:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Justice Angel
Complex Potential wrote:
I feel like I may be the only one who has this happening, or possibly I'm losing my mind.

When I launch my 8 probes they appear listed as 1-8 in descending order but they dont stay that way. They keep reversing order every second, continuously.

It's not game breaking but it does make an already clunky interface into quite a headache when I'm trying to set up a 4x1au + 4x8au formation.

I filed a bug report and CCP say they cant recreate it. My corp mates don't know what I'm talking about but someone in help chat yesterday said they "just ignore it".

Can people please respond letting me know if they do or do not have the above happening to them? It would be most helpful.

Thanks

CP


I know what your talking about kind of a pain to get them all selected when they keep moving! expand your list so you don't have to scroll for your probes, it was still doing it just not as fast when I opened the window all the way.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#28 - 2013-06-11 13:14:57 UTC
The only real solution is that you let us sort the probes again by column! I usually want to sort by size and I see absolutely no good reason why this was removed.

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Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-06-11 14:17:59 UTC
Adriana Nolen wrote:
Completely clean eve off your HD and reinstall.

I think I'll wait for CCP Paradox to implement the preventative measures he was talking about before going down that particular painful road. Also, I've got better things to do with my time than compensate for a coding oversight.
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#30 - 2013-06-12 01:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Tronic
Just hit the "Clear All Settings" button in the ESC menu. That might nuke the Age sort. Unforunately nobody ever put a "Clear all Window Settings" button, just position and color...
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-06-12 07:15:17 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
Just hit the "Clear All Settings" button in the ESC menu. That might nuke the Age sort. Unforunately nobody ever put a "Clear all Window Settings" button, just position and color...

What other settings will that clear please?
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-06-18 07:14:39 UTC
It's been a couple of weeks now and I've seen no attemp at getting this fixed.

CCP Paradox - any chance of giving us your latest guess on when this might get looked at?
Hulasikali Walla
Brave Nubs
#33 - 2013-06-18 10:11:58 UTC
Soon ™ Blink
Hulasikali Walla
Brave Nubs
#34 - 2013-06-18 13:56:04 UTC
Quote:
User Interface

Hopefully resolved an issue with probes re-ordering themselves in the scanner window. If this issue persists please file another bug report.


Thank for today's patch, no more moving probes Big smile
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-06-18 14:22:56 UTC
Hulasikali Walla wrote:
Quote:
User Interface

Hopefully resolved an issue with probes re-ordering themselves in the scanner window. If this issue persists please file another bug report.


Thank for today's patch, no more moving probes Big smile

Ah ha. Thanks for the update.

I'll have to take a looksie when I get home from work tonight.
Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-06-18 19:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeus Zed
Jack Tronic wrote:

tl;dr Lock the sort to Probe Name column, problem solved. In fact if by default its already sorting by Probe Name, its possible the old client settings for the window carried over for sort by Age since the older UI had the column headers to sort.


I've been trying to sort the probes by name as you suggested but I can't find the option to do so. Seems they are sorted by time as you pointed out - how can I sort them by name? There is no list to click on and sort this way.

Screenshot here (I'm on a Mac Pro running OSX 10.8.4)
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-06-18 21:14:07 UTC
Looks like the PC version has been fixed. Does the Mac work on a different update?
Enthropic
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2013-06-26 10:45:04 UTC
Im having the same problem. I did not notice it at first, but I scanned for a while yesterday and it happened several times.

yellow sigs that I would get to 100% with just one shrinking increment would suddenly disappear, it clearly never happened with the old (better, less dumbed down and perfectly functional) old probing system.
Enthropic
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2013-06-26 14:09:16 UTC
derp, I posted the above in the wrong thread. Meant to reply to this topic instead:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=249780&find=unread
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