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Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#21 - 2013-06-06 14:39:18 UTC
I would ask that people please keep it reasonably civil.


I know there's a lot of rage, I'm with you, but another deleted thread is of no good to anyone.



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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#22 - 2013-06-06 14:40:05 UTC
I though it was in the EULA that commenting on CCP staff was bannable?

Or did I dream it?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
floating in space
#23 - 2013-06-06 14:41:51 UTC  |  Edited by: floating in space
Lord 'Vulcan' Raven wrote:



Yeah I know they can and I get what you're saying but I don't even see why they would want to be oppressive.

In 2007/08..09? These forums were like the wild west (and much more active), you could even post images. I think that coincided with the last time this game was actually growing.

I know that when I go to check out a new game and I see about 4 whiteknights / shills posting on the forums I assume the game is dead.
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#24 - 2013-06-06 14:45:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Darvaleth Sigma
This actually pisses that guy off this much?

... RL, you heard of it?

EDIT: Judging by the toon name, I'd guess you had a bad experience.

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#25 - 2013-06-06 14:45:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lusty Wench
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I though it was in the EULA that commenting on CCP staff was bannable?

Or did I dream it?


I was careful in my wording.
I'm certainly not being disrespectful to anyone, in fact I praise half a dozen or so CCP staff. I tell about how I've grown to respect some that previously I didn't like very much.

The post only contains praise of CCP staff, and my reservations about a decision that was made and the good work that I feel was undone by said decision.




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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#26 - 2013-06-06 14:51:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Lusty Wench wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I though it was in the EULA that commenting on CCP staff was bannable?

Or did I dream it?


I was careful in my wording.
I'm certainly not being disrespectful to anyone, in fact I praise half a dozen or so CCP staff. I tell about how I've grown to respect some that previously I didn't like very much.

The post only contains praise of CCP staff, and my reservations about a decision that was made and the good work that I feel was undone by said e




30. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.

CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, “outing” of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties.

Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts.


Oh no, I wasnt suggesting you were being a bad egg, and as for your praise for their work I did see that too.

I am not suggesting you arent entitled to an opinion either, just adding my two cents to the idea that CCP were being too heavy handed in their approach, and I was just saying that they already have rules for this situation, and I agree that they dont have to justify them anymore than any other company does.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#27 - 2013-06-06 14:51:11 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Posting in another CCP DumbB!tch thread...

Know what the best thing is to do with annoying teenage attention whores?

Ignore them.

That which has been seen, cannot be unseen.


Man them things is so tiny they could hardly be seen much less unseen.

Not today spaghetti.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-06-06 14:56:58 UTC
Lusty Wench wrote:
Odyssey would have been released as a successful expansion, If you had just left out the one glaring screwup.

You could have held your heads high after dealing with the DDoS downtime so well.

As the miners realised that Ice & WH mining wasn't completely stuffed and they just needed to adapt a little. It would've been generally regarded as a good release. Not great like Apoc or anything, but hardly another Incarna.

CCP Fozzie and Rise working their arses off for many months, making good changes after feedback from us about what was good and what was crap. Those 2 have done an outstanding job creating not only goodwill in the forums, but making EVE a place I want to be.

Falling in love with CCP Seagull as she powered through the clearly visible nerves and presented at fanfest like an absolute champion. Not because shes female but because shes got guts. These thing foster goodwill with me, I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I'm sure I'm not alone on this, and they make me regard EVE as my own, these things make me want to keep sending you money.

CCP Peligro, whom I had considered a bit of a turd before fanfest gained multitudes of personal respect from his presentation at fanfest. CCP Soundwave, on the couch, relaxed, you all did so well.

Yet you blew it all with just one post. Actually several posts from CCP staff, but we know who the main offender is.

It just baffles me.

Someone somewhere was thinking, 'well this is all going a bit too smoothly, the playerbase seems a little too quiet, what can I do to mess this up? boot.ini? Eh been done before. $900 jeans? So passee. How about a company wide email? Um, not quite that fearless. Wait a minute, I think I've got something!'


If you imagine Apoc - Incarna on a scale from 10 - 0, I'd probably rate Odyssey about a 6 or 7. It's better than mediocre I think. I'm probably weighting too heavily the minimal downtime, the fact that POSs didn't kill their owners and silly things like that.

However with one failed decision you've knocked 4 points off and now it sits around a 2. All the good and hard work others have done has been undone with just one decision.

I won't be continuing, I'm not getting over it, if anything I'm getting more worked up about it. I'll check in on the forums and news sites periodically to see if the problem still persists, my guess is that I will activate those PLEXs the same day the problem goes away. I have 20 days left on this set of PLEX. I'll use that time to shiptoast and pull my pixels into one location in a station far far away.


I guess the TL;DR is that I'm not comfortable contributing to one of your employees salary.



nobody cares
Mulani Keikira
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-06-06 14:57:50 UTC
I've already canceled my 14 accounts. but they're prepaid for a few months still anyhow. So that's always cool.

What's sad is this flop of an expansion, if you can truly call it that isn't what prompted me to cancel. It was the absolute terrible job of the few staff members that served only to inflame those with reasonable complaints this passed weekend. Being stuck unable to play the game dor 2 days didn't bother me at all. I knew these guys were working hard to make sure it came up working regardless of whatever else.

Then the other day happens and I lose all respect for CCP as an organization and the direction they are taking with their staffing decisions. I have no power but my wallet so I'm speaking with it. And no, no one can have my stuff, half of it's already biomassed.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-06-06 14:59:05 UTC
95% male playerbase
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#31 - 2013-06-06 15:00:26 UTC
Darvaleth Sigma wrote:
This actually pisses that guy off this much?

... RL, you heard of it?

EDIT: Judging by the toon name, I'd guess you had a bad experience.



Yes it does.
Yes I have.

I've been LustyWench on the internet since Quake 1 was the latest and greatest. There's a backstory to it, it wasn't a bad anything, but this isn't the thread for that.
Prince Kobol
#32 - 2013-06-06 15:02:15 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Posting in another CCP DumbB!tch thread...

Know what the best thing is to do with annoying teenage attention whores?

Ignore them.


Been trying too but you wont stop posting :)
Prince Kobol
#33 - 2013-06-06 15:03:06 UTC
Mulani Keikira wrote:
I've already canceled my 14 accounts. but they're prepaid for a few months still anyhow. So that's always cool.

What's sad is this flop of an expansion, if you can truly call it that isn't what prompted me to cancel. It was the absolute terrible job of the few staff members that served only to inflame those with reasonable complaints this passed weekend. Being stuck unable to play the game dor 2 days didn't bother me at all. I knew these guys were working hard to make sure it came up working regardless of whatever else.

Then the other day happens and I lose all respect for CCP as an organization and the direction they are taking with their staffing decisions. I have no power but my wallet so I'm speaking with it. And no, no one can have my stuff, half of it's already biomassed.


Good

P.S

Lol
floating in space
#34 - 2013-06-06 15:04:00 UTC


What direction is this game going in really? I'm not surprised people are leaving. It's probably a cumulative thing though.
Prince Kobol
#35 - 2013-06-06 15:05:32 UTC
floating in space wrote:


What direction is this game going in really? I'm not surprised people are leaving. It's probably a cumulative thing though.


Yes because CCP really care about a handful of drama queens who feel they are special snowflakes and therefore can tell them who they can or can not hire...
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#36 - 2013-06-06 15:09:58 UTC
If you don't feel that you can post in a semi-respectful manner please reconsider clicking on the POST button.
Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
#37 - 2013-06-06 15:24:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Lusty Wench
floating in space wrote:


What direction is this game going in really? I'm not surprised people are leaving. It's probably a cumulative thing though.



I honestly thought it was going quite well. Getting little annoyances fixed, the ship rebalancing was excellent overall despite a lot of my favourite ships getting changed in manners that didn't personally suit me.

Some of the module changes (inactive invuls for example) didn't suit me and my level 5 skills, but I could see the bigger picture and just dealt with it.

This was valid until recently, now I just don't know.

I'm also very close to being un-nerfable skill wise. 90 days to go I think.
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-06-06 15:26:11 UTC
icelanders eat fermented fish and thats gross, im sorry ccp you cant have any more subs
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#39 - 2013-06-06 15:26:37 UTC
One of the problems is that you (or anyone) cant explain what the problem is without breaking the EULA, for good or bad.


I dont understand the issue, but then I dont play You Tube Online or what ever game this originated in

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Prince Kobol
#40 - 2013-06-06 15:28:49 UTC
Lusty Wench wrote:
floating in space wrote:


What direction is this game going in really? I'm not surprised people are leaving. It's probably a cumulative thing though.



I honestly thought it was going quite well. Getting little annoyances fixed, the ship rebalancing was excellent overall despite a lot of my favourite ships getting changed in manners that didn't personally suit me.

Some of the module changes (inactive invuls for example) didn't suit me and my level 5 skills, but I could see the bigger picture and just dealt with it.

This was valid until recently, now I just don't know.

I'm also very close to being un-nerfable skill wise. 90 days to go I think.


If only there was a skill at making a mountain out of molehill....