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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2013-06-06 11:06:56 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
It sounds to me like you want less "sandbox" and more "god mode". No 50-200 man group should be able to thoroughly topple a 5000+ man alliance and take their space, unless the larger group allows them to do so (or some crafty metagame **** is pulled off). I don't care what your ego says should be possible, that just wouldn't make sense if it could be done.


Reality is stranger than fiction.

Meet...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_York

Quote:
After his platoon suffered heavy casualties and 3 other noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Cpl. York assumed command. Fearlessly leading 7 men, he charged with great daring a machine gun nest which was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon. In this heroic feat the machine gun nest was taken, together with 4 officers and 128 men and several guns.


Oh, it should be able to happen in actual combat, with mechanics to allow it.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#82 - 2013-06-06 11:10:55 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
It sounds to me like you want less "sandbox" and more "god mode". No 50-200 man group should be able to thoroughly topple a 5000+ man alliance and take their space, unless the larger group allows them to do so (or some crafty metagame **** is pulled off). I don't care what your ego says should be possible, that just wouldn't make sense if it could be done.


Reality is stranger than fiction.

Meet...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_York

Quote:
After his platoon suffered heavy casualties and 3 other noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Cpl. York assumed command. Fearlessly leading 7 men, he charged with great daring a machine gun nest which was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon. In this heroic feat the machine gun nest was taken, together with 4 officers and 128 men and several guns.


Oh, it should be able to happen in actual combat, with mechanics to allow it.



Yeah you are right of course.

4 officers and 128 men in a machinegun post ARE equal in scale to a multi-multi billion (if not trillion) Isk, 500 member Space Alliance who control enitre planets.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#83 - 2013-06-06 11:12:36 UTC
Sethose Olderon wrote:
After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. I'm the type of person that wants to find my own path, and not follow under anyone else's rules (nullsec blocks). After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.
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The term for this kind of person is a "traveller"

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#84 - 2013-06-06 11:15:07 UTC
"Bye! Don't use your knife Kevin.. I mean Kabar... Or thalrebukia. Who booo yucka werrrr....."

(+100,000,000,000 internets to anyone who knows where that line came from)

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#85 - 2013-06-06 11:17:12 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:


Oh, it should be able to happen in actual combat, with mechanics to allow it.


It does.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#86 - 2013-06-06 11:55:36 UTC
Sethose Olderon wrote:


First, and foremost, Eve is dominated by Nullsec. Their culture, tactics, and influence is impossible to counter or side-step. Anyone who attempts to do so is curb-stomped and eliminated. Either you play by their rules, or you can take your toys and go home --the epitome of playground politics.



So you want to show up on the scene as a nobody with a couple other nobodies, make your own nerd rules without being able to enforce them, have no diplomacy, be worth less than a bag of hair as a pilot and you think it's bad when others just laugh and stomp you into the dirt?

Can I gets a piece of dat stuffz?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#87 - 2013-06-06 12:16:37 UTC
Sethose Olderon wrote:
After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. I'm the type of person that wants to find my own path, and not follow under anyone else's rules (nullsec blocks). After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.


So you like to find your own path by.....keeping other people from finding their own path. That's what an Alliance is, a way for YOU to leverage the existance and activity of other people.

And you want to fight against nullsec block tyranny by....becoming a nullsec block yourself lol.

Priceless

Quote:

Why? Two main reasons.

First, and foremost, Eve is dominated by Nullsec. Their culture, tactics, and influence is impossible to counter or side-step. Anyone who attempts to do so is curb-stomped and eliminated. Either you play by their rules, or you can take your toys and go home --the epitome of playground politics.

Secondly, CCP is in love with nullsec. All the members of the CSM are nullsec clowns bowing to the whims of their maniacal masters. CCP's never-ending love affair with the whole damn thing leads them to screw anyone or anything who has an alternative agenda. They incessantly push everyone towards nullsec, while having no consideration for the individual or for the small corporation or alliance. Either you join a mega-alliance and become cannon-fodder or you really have no viable long-term path in Eve. Nullsec is the end-game of Eve.

So, I ask in earnest CCP, when are you going to make all of Eve nullsec. When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena? Stop dicking around, and do it, or give the rest of us options. Consider the individual, the small corporation, and the small alliance. Not everyone is interested in doing the bidding of a maniacal bloated psychopath and his personality cult.

For me, it really doesn't matter, it's the last straw. Subscription Cancelled.

Cue the, "Can I have your stuff lines". No, you can't have it, f*ck off.


Then, can I help you trash your stuff. Rubbish bins are heavy.

I always wonder how ego maniacal someone has to be to think that coming on a forum, announcing supreme injustice then threatening to cancel a subscription or 17 actually means anything. In short, who do you think you are? I certainly never heard of you before today.

It's amazing that people come to the part of EVE that is purpose built to be dominated by the strong and the complain that the place is dominated by the strong. If you are a small group or don't want to dominated by others, low sec, npc null and wormholes are the places for that. Sov Null is big boy playground and you either conform to that or invest in a bunch of bombers and recons and harass the big boys so much they pack up and Head to WoW.

But for some reason, people like this think that in some magical way he and his merry band of 5 dudes from the IT department should somehow be able to conquer space. The problem isn't Sov Null or EVE or CCP, it's your way of thinking OP.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#88 - 2013-06-06 12:17:41 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
StealthBlatantly Obvious "The fourteen guys I got together couldn't take sov" thread.


I saw problem. I fixed.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#89 - 2013-06-06 12:18:30 UTC
Dyphorus wrote:
Sethose Olderon wrote:
When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena?


May 2003


ROFL, well played sir. With one date you have won EVE.
Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#90 - 2013-06-06 12:26:14 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Sandbox" doesn't mean there are no rules or limitations. Sandboxes have walls and they're governed by laws of physics. Someone's activities in the sandbox can be augmented or hampered by someone else's. We can build a really big sandcastle together. I can **** on your sandcastle. We can't make our sandcastles levitate, though, nor can you build a nuclear bomb out of sand.


Laws of physics in a universe where planets don't orbit and ships stop by simply turning off their propulsion... Lol

Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#91 - 2013-06-06 12:39:34 UTC
dude, **** null...no seriously **** em. Aral does was Aral wants to do!

Oderint Dum Metuant
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-06-06 12:44:40 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Sandbox" doesn't mean there are no rules or limitations. Sandboxes have walls and they're governed by laws of physics. Someone's activities in the sandbox can be augmented or hampered by someone else's. We can build a really big sandcastle together. I can **** on your sandcastle. We can't make our sandcastles levitate, though, nor can you build a nuclear bomb out of sand.


Laws of physics in a universe where planets don't orbit and ships stop by simply turning off their propulsion... Lol


Eve is a very realistic submarine simulator.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2013-06-06 12:49:55 UTC
Hello, I am from the nullsec.

I am here to confirm your statements, the nullsec does control all your game. If you have any complaints about your game experience, please submit them to the correct party and we will do all we can to help you improve said experience.

Have a good day.
Seniae 0n3
#94 - 2013-06-06 12:50:37 UTC
WarFireV wrote:
Hello, I am from the nullsec.

I am here to confirm your statements, the nullsec does control all your game. If you have any complaints about your game experience, please submit them to the correct party and we will do all we can to help you improve said experience.

Have a good day.


LOL!
Anyura
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2013-06-06 13:01:50 UTC
Julius Rigel wrote:
Sethose Olderon wrote:
After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion.
Took you long enough.

Sethose Olderon wrote:
After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.
But you're not in an alliance...

Also, we're still going to graciously offer to store your stuff in our hangars until you change your mind and re-sub. Nothing you say past "I'm leaving" is going to prevent that.


I'm not offering to store his stuff. I'm going to take and sell it to the first disreputable swine I can find, then blow the cash on faction ships I can't afford to replace.

...."Store it", he says....
Taos D'Heretic
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2013-06-06 13:10:58 UTC
So if we cant have your stuff or wallet, that means some part of your mind no matter how small believes it will return.
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2013-06-06 13:12:03 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
It sounds to me like you want less "sandbox" and more "god mode". No 50-200 man group should be able to thoroughly topple a 5000+ man alliance and take their space, unless the larger group allows them to do so (or some crafty metagame **** is pulled off). I don't care what your ego says should be possible, that just wouldn't make sense if it could be done.


Reality is stranger than fiction.

Meet...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_York

Quote:
After his platoon suffered heavy casualties and 3 other noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Cpl. York assumed command. Fearlessly leading 7 men, he charged with great daring a machine gun nest which was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon. In this heroic feat the machine gun nest was taken, together with 4 officers and 128 men and several guns.


Oh, it should be able to happen in actual combat, with mechanics to allow it.



Well since we are going down this path why don't you tell me how they did against the nightly counter attacks. Who did they daily supply runs? Yea they won a battle but I highly doubt they were able to control the land in a 10'mile radius radius by them selves for long.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2013-06-06 13:19:29 UTC
WarFireV wrote:
Hello, I am from the nullsec.

I am here to confirm your statements, the nullsec does control all your game. If you have any complaints about your game experience, please submit them to the correct party and we will do all we can to help you improve said experience.

Have a good day.

My enjoyment of this game would be increased exponentially if you guys could hotdrop at least a full AHAC fleet on top of the OP the next time he and his group of four people even try to drop an SBU. Hell, I'd even pay for the fuel, so long as video proof of his tears was collected.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2013-06-06 13:20:01 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Sandbox" doesn't mean there are no rules or limitations. Sandboxes have walls and they're governed by laws of physics. Someone's activities in the sandbox can be augmented or hampered by someone else's. We can build a really big sandcastle together. I can **** on your sandcastle. We can't make our sandcastles levitate, though, nor can you build a nuclear bomb out of sand.


Laws of physics in a universe where planets don't orbit and ships stop by simply turning off their propulsion... Lol

Do you understand what an analogy is?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Adunh Slavy
#100 - 2013-06-06 13:21:03 UTC
Hey CCP, whatever happened to the low sec Viceroy idea?

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt