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Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#41 - 2013-06-05 23:27:54 UTC
Also, on a sidenote, I first read the topic's name as CCP Wish... (late here)

I wondered where he'd work, marketing? Turns out it was more interesting... Lol

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Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#42 - 2013-06-05 23:28:22 UTC
Aidan Brooder wrote:
Loan--Wolf wrote:
i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff


I really don't see a need for you to become a leader. There are other things that corporations can do aside from pew-pew.
Strike a deal with another corp, even a C1 wormhole has a lot to offer. And someone running one alone will be very welcome by some of the newer mining corps, e.g..

Make sure you screen for potential partners carefully. The market is the market. It will always change and sometimes what was profitable yesterday, ain't anymore the next month. There can be many reasons for it. Expansions being just one of them.



i dont live in it totaly alone just my corp is a one man corp and the other people that was liveing there was a mineing corp but they disapered im guessing bot ban but no way to know and there is a old school vet droped a pos so he could do pi to plex his acounts but it is just me to fend for my self and my corp he only plays long enouf to do some pi
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#43 - 2013-06-05 23:30:50 UTC
As said: Get some more partners in.

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Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#44 - 2013-06-05 23:31:01 UTC
i come up with that because in the posts pre expansion ever time i got slapped down for asking not to do so radical change to the ice i was told that ccp doesn't like solo players or wh players i thought it just fit lol
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#45 - 2013-06-05 23:36:25 UTC
I think the key is that everything gets easier if you do not solo.
I have several accounts, like most, but just because I enjoy several playstyles in game.

I find the notion to run four accounts for one purpose quite - stressy - but that is only my opinion.

I don't think CCP should "target" lone wolves. But if you see that a given goal or operation can - temporarily or permanently - not be handled by just 1 person with 4 alts, then you need reliable partners or you need to give up your operation and find another venture.

That said: I personally think the Ice prices will go way way down again soon. It is much easier still to mine than expected.
Give it some time...

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Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#46 - 2013-06-05 23:38:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Loan--Wolf
one acount is scanner with some other combat skill for need one is indie with combat for need one is more or less cov ops with combat as needed and one is just for killing with he is the one i line the most buhaha

edited to add
depending how you define easer i agree it would be a lot easer to make large amounts of isk with a big corp in a c5

but i find for me personly i learned eve lot easer and faster liveing alone in this c1

just all in how you look at it i guess
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#47 - 2013-06-05 23:47:04 UTC
Well, in any case, I wish you good luck...

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-06-06 00:01:58 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
i also just want to put it on paper for the record
1.i like most of the changes
2.im not saying change ice back or even the spawn amount
3.im not even crying about the gaves alltho i think the risk verser reward is one sided to risk now


all i am saying is that a change that digs this deep into the economy of eve should have been discused with the players

only thing i would change is the 4 houre respawn time so the price of ice can stable if you want to make it deplet thats fine make it respwan and have to be scaned down or something

edited to add i am mostly happy with the changes the new fire sound is a anoing tho lol



I'm quite surprised CCP didn't thought about making a bit of ice spawn in WH sites, not enough to cover a POS fuel but at least a bit, this wouldn't change much or nothing to bigger corps, but would certainly help a bit for small corps and solo guys that are being totally removed from the gaming equation if prerequisite no met: no rl life eve is a 24h job or a Golden Mastercard.

The main factor CCP didn't accounted at any moment in this change is the solo player, have done it neither for any other change and this is not a good move from their part leading to a -1 on the excellence route, solo players with not huge amounts of hours a day or week to play should have tools available to explore all areas of the game and play everywhere in new eden without being a special ******.




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Phoenix Einherjar
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-06-06 00:14:41 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
way i see it i shouldn't be forced to play the way some one else wants me to play and if you disagree that's fine your welcome to your opinion even if it is wrong


Your arrogance is ******* astounding. YOUR opinion is the one that is wrong here. It was YOUR fault you can't adapt to change. YOUR fault you didnt inform yourself and prepare for the change. YOUR choice to run a POS. Nobody forced you to build a POS and nobody is forcing you to take it down.

Do you also complain to the government about petrol prices when they have no control over those? Because that's the exact same ******* situation here

For the love of god someone lock this thread.

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Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-06-06 00:22:23 UTC
Ok so I read a few posts until I understood what the OP is complaining about.

And it makes no sense.
Its NOT CCPs fault that people stockpiled and bought all of the ice, hell, the ice price started to rise at the damn presentation at fanfest, litterally half an hour later the price had gone up noticeably. And its STILL NOT CCPS FAULT, its entirely because of people trying to earn more ISK, market speculation.
Seniae 0n3
#51 - 2013-06-06 00:25:51 UTC
Phoenix Einherjar wrote:
Loan--Wolf wrote:
way i see it i shouldn't be forced to play the way some one else wants me to play and if you disagree that's fine your welcome to your opinion even if it is wrong


Your arrogance is ******* astounding. YOUR opinion is the one that is wrong here. It was YOUR fault you can't adapt to change. YOUR fault you didnt inform yourself and prepare for the change. YOUR choice to run a POS. Nobody forced you to build a POS and nobody is forcing you to take it down.

Do you also complain to the government about petrol prices when they have no control over those? Because that's the exact same ******* situation here

For the love of god someone lock this thread.


blah blah blah blah ... blab much ... nothing constructive
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#52 - 2013-06-06 00:34:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Loan--Wolf
lol not only was it not constructive it was down right wrong i never once blamed any one and fyi i been keeping tabs on this ever sence fanfeast it has nothing to do with that its a simple fact i DONT WANT TO BE FORCED TO PLAY HOW SOME ONE ELSE THINKS I SHOULD did you understand that time or are you learning challenged

edit to fix a majior spelling error dont expect me to make a habit of it :)
Minister of Death
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-06-06 00:34:41 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Let me introduce you to my friend the capslock key.


THE FACT YOU DIDN'T WRITE THAT IN ALL CAPS IS DISTURB!!
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#54 - 2013-06-06 00:36:39 UTC
oh and i forgot let me see here i thought the defention of a sandbox game was to play how you want to not how the gms want you to am i wrong on this if so by all means tell me so ccp can take that off there webpage
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-06-06 00:49:22 UTC
Competitive comes ahead of sandbox.

If it was a true sandbox then literally anything would be possible and you could, as a soloist without any friends and without competing with anyone, own the entirety of nullsec.
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-06-06 00:50:03 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
oh and i forgot let me see here i thought the defention of a sandbox game was to play how you want to not how the gms want you to am i wrong on this if so by all means tell me so ccp can take that off there webpage

So exactly what kind of play is being forced onto you? What is it you dont want to do, that you are being made to do, apparently by GMs?
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#57 - 2013-06-06 00:56:27 UTC
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
Loan--Wolf wrote:
oh and i forgot let me see here i thought the defention of a sandbox game was to play how you want to not how the gms want you to am i wrong on this if so by all means tell me so ccp can take that off there webpage

So exactly what kind of play is being forced onto you? What is it you dont want to do, that you are being made to do, apparently by GMs?

im being forced to move out of the c1 i have been liveing in for the last like 8 months because of price of pos fuel is to high
Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#58 - 2013-06-06 00:57:53 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Competitive comes ahead of sandbox.

If it was a true sandbox then literally anything would be possible and you could, as a soloist without any friends and without competing with anyone, own the entirety of nullsec.


and yes i get that that you have to have some boundaries i was referring to the fact that you have choices in how you chose to play
Fernando MRuiz
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-06-06 01:01:55 UTC
Loan--Wolf wrote:
*rant snipped*


So you open with blaming CCP for you not being able to support a WH POS due to ice prices skyrocketing, then you say 'I'm not blaming anyone for this'. Let's build on that, because right now, you sound exactly like anyone who's pitched at fit over getting ganked while mining.

Yes, CCP created a sandbox game. Yes, the definition of a 'sandbox game' is a game where a player has total freedom to do what he wants. However, you're complaining because other players in this same sandbox are playing how they want to, which is preparing for a massive price hike by stockpiling ice like they just saw Wormwood falling from the sky. Guess what: they're playing the game the way they want to, just like I play the game like I want to and the guy who's gonna quote and snark on this post plays the way he or she wants to. Your rant is akin to 'CCP changed the game and now I can't make enough ISK anymore, so I'm quitting the game'.

Really?! Your reaction to this massive change is 'MY toy!' and pitching a fit? Don't take this the wrong way, but your emotional investment in the game is extremely dangerous. I'm not suggesting quitting, but taking a few steps back and looking this entire thread over.

Sure, there's points where I see a change and go 'oh, really, guys?', but turn around and adapt to it. There's points where I log in because I feel like mining for a bit so I'm that much closer to my materials needs, and every belt in my system is empty because mining ops have just blown through. I don't even get mad at suicide gankers that find and pop me, because even though these would always be hisec ganks, they were quick enough hits that they get the pod before the ship's explosion fades out completely and that's worth a 'gf' in and of itself.

If a change this drastic affects you this much, time to backpedal just a little and think about the situation more thoroughly.

"One must, in one's life, make a choice between boredom and suffering." - Mme. Germaine de Staƫl

Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
#60 - 2013-06-06 01:05:36 UTC
in the end when the dust clears i will probably liquidate my assets consolidate my accounts sell of the spares and join a wh corp
but that in its self is my main problem i dont play well with others i like being independent and by me doing so ccp's income is reduced by 480 us dollors a year
not a lot i know but in contrast when you add up the others that number will grow some what
i have no idea how many solo playes will feel the same as me and close some acounts but just say if there was a 1000 that close just one acount they was plexing that would 20000 a year in income loss i figure its much more but i cant prove that