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True Stories Debacle

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Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-06-06 06:12:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
Grrrr, Goons!

Don't give away truckloads of PLEX if you don't want it to get "blocswarmed". But I assume, if they didn't do that, nobody would care, this isn't about "good stories". It's bullshit either way. Blame :ccp:
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2013-06-06 06:19:45 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Grrrr, Goons!


They're the butt of every joke in EvE. Goes with the territory of naming yourselves...goons.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Josef Djugashvilis
#43 - 2013-06-06 06:31:05 UTC
I heard mittens was going to write a good story about fan-fest, but he was so drunk he couldn't remember what the story was.

Something about him wearing a pointy hat?

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Naomi Hale
#44 - 2013-06-06 06:32:30 UTC
Emu Meo wrote:
When I first read about true stories I was intrigued. A really interesting idea I thought, and I felt encouraged to begin penning a story of my own. That is until I read about how they were going to judge the winner, namely, based upon player votes. I thought to myself no matter how good a story I may write, it will never get enough votes as likely all of the votes will come from the alliance blocks as per usual in these situation.

Just as predicted, it is exactly as I suspected. Mitanni at the top spot with a pretty bland and generic take on the famous BOB disbandment. He probably just copy and pasted it from anther source and instructed all his goons to up vote it. The other stories were also pretty boring and generic, with the second place prize going to a story with literally zero literary talent displayed, more akin to a check list of events which occurred.

A wasted opportunity indeed CCP. Did you really not forsee this happening?

I figured something like that would happen.

I'm more concerned with if it can make a good story for a graphic novel that needs to contain four other stories. BoB's downfalll would really fit better into a sci-fi mini-series or political/spy novel, not 45 pages of a graphic novel.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#45 - 2013-06-06 06:40:38 UTC
grr goons.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#46 - 2013-06-06 08:14:14 UTC
True Stories? ...... Yawn

I ignored that site completely because the writing (excuse the pun) was on the wall from the get go. Mittani stroking his e-peen and his mind swiped followers chomping at the bit to vote was always a forgone conclusion, imho.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#47 - 2013-06-06 08:22:51 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
True Stories? ...... Yawn

I ignored that site completely because the writing (excuse the pun) was on the wall from the get go. Mittani stroking his e-peen and his mind swiped followers chomping at the bit to vote was always a forgone conclusion, imho.


Because it is impossible to out vote a block that makes up less than 1% of the population.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2013-06-06 08:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Emu Meo wrote:
When I first read about true stories I was intrigued. A really interesting idea I thought, and I felt encouraged to begin penning a story of my own. That is until I read about how they were going to judge the winner, namely, based upon player votes. I thought to myself no matter how good a story I may write, it will never get enough votes as likely all of the votes will come from the alliance blocks as per usual in these situation.

Just as predicted, it is exactly as I suspected. Mitanni at the top spot with a pretty bland and generic take on the famous BOB disbandment. He probably just copy and pasted it from anther source and instructed all his goons to up vote it. The other stories were also pretty boring and generic, with the second place prize going to a story with literally zero literary talent displayed, more akin to a check list of events which occurred.

A wasted opportunity indeed CCP. Did you really not forsee this happening?



A bit late to the party are we not?

I said that even before the voting started, so did everybody else that has more than 2 cells to rub together.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Mitzi Sayuri
The Carlyle Group
#49 - 2013-06-06 11:48:50 UTC
So sorry that there wasn't a plethora of stories circa 2004 of pirates that made you sing for your existence, circa Space Invaders and the like. Oh so many fond memories that are only available on vents and the like.

Those were the good old days, you never knew if you could survive.

Still looking for any Space Invader story, takes time I know.


And what about the original Ponzi, you know the guy that continually justified himself on the forums. hmmm have to to some research .
Ben Samuels
U bivashka Corporation 1
#50 - 2013-06-06 12:11:02 UTC
Cool Story, Bro
Invisusira
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#51 - 2013-06-06 12:27:33 UTC
While the point does have some legitimacy to it, there is the fact that the large powerblocs also contain by their very nature the largest pools of members and, therefore, the largest group of potentially interesting stories to tell.

OP complains about literary quality, but this contest was never about something that will be copy-pasted verbatim; they're going to be used by CCP as inspiration for a graphic novel and TV series (go watch some Fanfest).

Complain if you must about "omg it's all nullsec blocs," but unless you have some interesting highsec stories to tell - of which there are plenty, of course - try and be a little more open minded. Let's not forget that some of the most interesting highsec stories are actually staged by nullsec blocs.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#52 - 2013-06-06 12:29:21 UTC
Malak Dawnfire wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RememberWhenYouBlewUpASun



No! I'll be reading these Tropes for like a week now! Damn you!


That's how that damn site gets you, it keeps you going "oh yea, I seen that before!!!" lol
corporal death
Veteran Rewards
#53 - 2013-06-16 05:32:32 UTC
.... One simply needs look at the lack of response from CCP, and the responses from the forum lords. To think that this competition was in any way fair is absurd. Look at who won ALL the prizes. CCP knows they screwed up. Things like this don't help to generate a larger player base. Nobody likes a situation where the rich get richer, and nobody else has a chance. As the goon post says, this competition is worth 120 billion isk, which would go to alliance coffers.. If Chewbacca Is a wookie, and wookie's are from kashyyyk, then why is Chewbacca on endor??? It doesn't make sense... +1 to the goonion for winning
Ghazu
#54 - 2013-06-16 07:26:07 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
GIGO, you ask who can get more votes for a creamy fart and you get a top voted creamy fart*.

This True Story issue strikes me as the exact opposite of the "design a starship" initial disaster.

The first round of "design a starship" had too few EVE and too much outside talent(?).

The True Story contest has had way too much EVE and null outside talent(?).

I wish good luck to the Black Horse guys trying to make a comic out of BoB's demise and then earn any money with it. Lol


*not commenting on the quality of the winner work.

write up that story where after months of barbie freaking cyber flirting this dude got a carrier cus his avatar was hawt

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#55 - 2013-06-16 08:44:11 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
GIGO, you ask who can get more votes for a creamy fart and you get a top voted creamy fart*.

This True Story issue strikes me as the exact opposite of the "design a starship" initial disaster.

The first round of "design a starship" had too few EVE and too much outside talent(?).

The True Story contest has had way too much EVE and null outside talent(?).

I wish good luck to the Black Horse guys trying to make a comic out of BoB's demise and then earn any money with it. Lol


*not commenting on the quality of the winner work.

write up that story where after months of barbie freaking cyber flirting this dude got a carrier cus his avatar was hawt


Houm, I do know a story about someone who earned 40,000 likes in a forum thread and got a carrier paid for by his thread buddies...

As i've said elsewhere, the fact that Mittens could had won with absolutely anyhting (even : "X pressed disband button. BoB was disbanded") points a serious fault in the contest mechanics. Further, CCP will run another contest later this year and are taking suggestions on how to improve it... doesn't sounds like they're too fond on the turnout of this one, does it?

I wrote a semi-detailed post on improvements at the appropiate thread. Summarized as:

- Be sure on why they run a contest and what the result should be
- Use a jury to achieve the goal defined above
- Proofread on plot drafts, then ask to elaborate the more promising drafts for the actual contest
- Absolutely NO voting
- Absolutely NO judging by "who" wrote it but by "what" was written.

I myself will wait to have a chance if they ever make a fiction contest...
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#56 - 2013-06-16 08:51:49 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
GIGO, you ask who can get more votes for a creamy fart and you get a top voted creamy fart*.

This True Story issue strikes me as the exact opposite of the "design a starship" initial disaster.

The first round of "design a starship" had too few EVE and too much outside talent(?).

The True Story contest has had way too much EVE and null outside talent(?).

I wish good luck to the Black Horse guys trying to make a comic out of BoB's demise and then earn any money with it. Lol


*not commenting on the quality of the winner work.

write up that story where after months of barbie freaking cyber flirting this dude got a carrier cus his avatar was hawt


lol

It actually started as a joke but then we just went for it.

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Obunagawe
#57 - 2013-06-16 09:27:58 UTC
I don't know why mittens even wrote anything.

Should have just said

"Once upon a time, goons won 120 bil in prizes. The end."
Ghazu
#58 - 2013-06-16 09:28:23 UTC
so likes-circle jerking is more acceptible than bloc voting, lol 40,000 "earned"

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#59 - 2013-06-16 09:59:07 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
so likes-circle jerking is more acceptible than bloc voting, lol 40,000 "earned"


Did I say anything about one being more acceptible than the other?

Also, learn the difference between a gift to a friend and a compeition.

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Ghazu
#60 - 2013-06-16 10:11:37 UTC
oh that wasn't directed at you, but at that dude who's got a fetish for creamy farts or something. the carrier is a good story, and should be submitted, it's not like you people don't count as a bloc of some sort.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984