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Dev Blog: The Circle is Complete - Voting Finished for True Stories

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Hoarr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-06-05 17:18:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Hoarr
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Andski wrote:
can someone point out a better story than those that were selected #1 and #2 by the community through a voting process?

3rd, 4th and 5th easily.

this is objectively incorrect, as demonstrated through the unbiased system that permitted anyone in eve to read the stories and vote upon them



Look guys, I'm not contending that what happened with the BoB disbanding wasn't important in the development of EvE. That would be lunacy. What I'm saying is that the story was not actually very well written. It was a brief (not entirely well written) summary of the events that was upvoted by everyone involved on the victors side; both those who were actually there and remember what happened, and those who have since joined and see it as part of their heritage. Those people are voting more based on the countless other stories that they have heard surrounding the events, rather than that specific one.

Mitten's own writings for Ten Ton Hammer were technically way better stories. They were engaging in a way that this one simply wasn't.
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-06-05 17:18:48 UTC
Andski wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Andski wrote:
can someone point out a better story than those that were selected #1 and #2 by the community through a voting process?

3rd, 4th and 5th easily.


if they were better they'd be #1, #2 and #3

That doesn't mean that they weren't better than the ones in #1 and #2. It just means that fewer people voted for them.

Or rather, that more people voted for the stories that came in 1st and 2nd.

Quelle surprise.
Del Vikus
Sundered Core
#23 - 2013-06-05 17:20:43 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"Today I mined asteroids. It was exciting. To change it up I even harvested a few blocks of ice.
Living dangerously in highsec."

HIGH-SEC PLAYERS BAND TOGETHER, VOTE FOR MY STORY, PUSH OUT THE EVIL NULL INFLUENCE


"Today I mined asteroids. It was exciting. Nothing happened for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and then our Blob got rolled by another Blob. My personal impact: zero."

NULLSEC PLAYERS BAND TOGETHER, VOTE FOR GLORIOUS LEADER'S STORY, CONTINUE TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO IN HIGH AND LOWSEC
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2013-06-05 17:25:08 UTC
Ifly Uwalk wrote:

That doesn't mean that they weren't better than the ones in #1 and #2. It just means that fewer people voted for them.

Or rather, that more people voted for the stories that came in 1st and 2nd.

Quelle surprise.

this thing registering a higher reading on an unbiased standard functioning thermometer than that thing does not mean it is hotter

why would you even think such a thing
Angeliq
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-06-05 17:45:56 UTC
This contest was designed for large alliances to be won by. It was known from the very beginning that Goons (Mittani) will win the 1st place and the stories (good or bad) from the other major alliances will get the top 20. No matter how good your story was, if you were not an important member of a large alliance you didn't stand a chance.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-06-05 17:52:07 UTC
Angeliq wrote:
This contest was designed for large alliances to be won by. It was known from the very beginning that Goons (Mittani) will win the 1st place and the stories (good or bad) from the other major alliances will get the top 20. No matter how good your story was, if you were not an important member of a large alliance you didn't stand a chance.


those stories are why we are a "major alliance" - they demonstrably have more of an impact on the eve narrative than a story about some dude's pos

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Angeliq
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-06-05 17:54:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Angeliq
You don't get it, do you? It is not about how good or bad the stories were or the impact those had in EVE history, it is about equal chances for all contest participants.

wow much space very ship such pvp many pew
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-06-05 17:57:19 UTC
"Less people connect with my story and therefore less people are likely to vote for it. That must mean that whatever votes I do get are more deserved and should thus count for more."
Or something.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-06-05 19:07:23 UTC
Angeliq wrote:
You don't get it, do you? It is not about how good or bad the stories were or the impact those had in EVE history, it is about equal chances for all contest participants.


Really?

"True Stories from the First Decade is a crowdsourced effort to collect the most important stories of actual events from within New Eden, the Universe of EVE Online, from May 2003 to May 2013."

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-06-05 19:23:01 UTC
Angeliq wrote:
You don't get it, do you? It is not about how good or bad the stories were or the impact those had in EVE history, it is about equal chances for all contest participants.


Consider our collective voting power. Now look at how many votes those stories actually received, look how low the number is considering our collective voting power. Everyone had plenty of chance to downvote our stories & upvote the ones they liked but surprise surprise, they didn't bother which is hilarious considering that very few of us bothered with it.

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2013-06-05 19:27:14 UTC
Angeliq wrote:
You don't get it, do you? It is not about how good or bad the stories were or the impact those had in EVE history, it is about equal chances for all contest participants.

the olympics don't give an equal chance to obese people who haven't managed to walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing in years

down with the olympics
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2013-06-05 19:29:10 UTC
Angeliq is right a poorly written story about an odd irrelevant killmail should have been first place not any of these "interesting" stories about "significant" events
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-06-05 19:47:29 UTC
Well, in ten years time, the way this "competition" was handled is going to make a swell entry in the competition at that time

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-06-05 19:50:19 UTC
Jowen Datloran wrote:
Well, in ten years time, the way this "competition" was handled is going to make a swell entry in the competition at that time


yeah it's so unfair of CCP to run a competition where anybody who plays eve can vote for the best stories, and the best stories win isn't it

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-06-05 21:22:21 UTC
Jowen Datloran wrote:
Well, in ten years time, the way this "competition" was handled is going to make a swell entry in the competition at that time


You mean the story about how people could've pushed the 2 winning entries right off the top 5 but didn't due to apathy, then complained about how unfair the system was because they didn't bother voting? Yeah that's going to be an awesome story, I can't wait.

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VaL Iscariot
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-06-05 23:23:05 UTC
big shocker with mittens winning...

still, in my circle of RL friends that are aware of EVE, they know it by that story. kudos mittens. that's how you put your name in the EVE history books.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#37 - 2013-06-06 03:24:03 UTC
Mittani still talking about BOB?





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Cpt Underpants
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-06-06 08:49:51 UTC
Block voting by Goonswarm was only launched to counter an organised effort to downvote both Mittens' and xttz's submissions.

Lurk more - http://i39.tinypic.com/2nktoiq.gif
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-06-06 10:03:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jowen Datloran
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Jowen Datloran wrote:
Well, in ten years time, the way this "competition" was handled is going to make a swell entry in the competition at that time


You mean the story about how people could've pushed the 2 winning entries right off the top 5 but didn't due to apathy, then complained about how unfair the system was because they didn't bother voting? Yeah that's going to be an awesome story, I can't wait.

You mean the tiny amount of people here moaning about the result could have effected it by voting differently? I think it explains why the outcome became as it is; a good example of a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I am btw. perfectly fine with the result. I did not submit any stories and did vote on some of the stories that made it into the top 5. But calling the outcome of this competition any kind of unexpected is pushing the limit on how purposely ignorant one can be.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-06-06 14:27:30 UTC
I too get mad at a voting system where everyone has an equal voice regardless of what demographic they are part of.

CCP can we just have biased voting mechanic now, clearly this "fair" system you use is not helping further my own personal goals.
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