Wormholes

Are all grav sites ("ore" sites) now anoms?

or do they need to be properly probed down still?

if not.... it makes it incredibly easy to cloaky jump miners in wh's. no more combat probs on dscan before you get jumped...

(and yes there will be some of you who say "you should have protection" etc etc... but be realistic. no pvp player wants to protect miners. thats why mining in low sec dosnt work.



Thanks :)

dringy o7

time to run with venture cheap fit hope you dont have your implants in cuss these guys around here love the hard core life and hate change but love to gank

Do what you should already have done before:

- put a scout on your static
- close all other connections
- pay attention to new sigs

and you are probably as safe as you were before.

Just use a venture. Those things are annoying to catch, even with a 3+ point scram.

I'm going to say "at least" as safe, if not safer because you don't even need to put out probes to see if a new sig spawns. Every time I've been ganked mining in a WH it was because a new exit spawned and I was too lazy to hammer the "scan" button on my scout ever min or so. The new scanner fixes that.

People seem to be worried about how easy sites are to find.... but to me it means I'll probably do more mining than I did before because there's zero effort involved in finding the sites, which makes getting set up quicker.

I'll also add to the above list.... "don't mine in a blob". Spread the mining ships out over the lenght of the belt so even a dictor that slips through will only get one or two.

You *will* lose the odd ship mining in a wormhole but given the payout, it's just the price of doing business, really

Not to mention you can just anchor a bubble at the warp in point and anchor some cans around it in line with some celestial objects. You have just defeated the majority of players from warping on top of you except nullified T3s.

Gah my post didn't work :/

It was something along the lines of.
- no point mentioning the venture. The quantities are too small for any substantial industry.
- while yes nothing should be risk free, one of the only defences a barge pilot has is attention to what is happening.
- cloaky ship cannot be detected at all, unless you catch him when he enters system before he raises his cloak,
- an exception was made for sleepers in exploration sites in wh's, why not ore sites? Presumably you know how to explore by the time you move into one.
- why unesasarily nerf this aspect of wh space to match k space.
- why not make it a sig like the others again, The sigs are narrowed down considerably now anyway. This I presume would be preferred in low sec and nul for the same reasons.... But at least they have local. As it is a good scanner can nail you in 30 seconds

Yessss you can have scouts, yesss you can bubble the warp ins. But you needed to do most of these before they became anoms anyway,



:)

Well yes a new k162 wh would appear instantly and you have a warning, tho that's probably very annoying to the pirates :D (pretty sure there's a whole other thread designated to that)


Any cleaver pirates are gonna hold up for a few days in the hole they enter.Wait for that new ore sig. Wait for a happy little mining barge then shove a couple bombs up his... Tail pipe. I know im going to try it out...

"But that pirate went to the effort of waiting blah blah blah"

CCP have made the dscan on mining barges practically useless..... And while we are at it... WHY then are gas sites not anomalies as well???? It just makes no sense at all. None.

New scanning changes are great. But to help pirates out the scanner shouldn't run automatically... You should have to pump the scan to see new sigs/sites. And I still think grav sites should still be sigs, at least in wh space. Nul sec and low can keep a watchful eye on local chat for intel. Removing ANY source of intel on OTHER SHIPS for wh dwellers is to harsh.


Edit: other cloaky* ships,

o7

Grav sites last for a few days after the sleepers spawn from you mining it. This would be no different from before because they could just scan everything down and wait for you to use one of the grav sites for a few days, and bookmarks last forever.

As opposed to before...?

Miners have gotten a simultaneous buff and nerf. We'll see how the pieces land.