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Your thoughts on the legalisation of cannabis in the UK

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adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-10-21 22:15:05 UTC
Recently there has been alot of attention towards the legalisation of cannabis in the UK, personally, I welcome the idea, having been quite a stoner my self. Big smile. I am all for legalisation. Means I can finally get rid of these stupid warnings from the police.

What about you?
Niraia
Starcakes
Cynosural Field Theory.
#2 - 2011-10-22 00:13:04 UTC
Never saw the point of it being illegal.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-22 00:38:21 UTC
I don't think Brits need to get stupider... honestly you guys are giving my countrymen a run for their money...

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Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-10-22 00:44:07 UTC
Honestly, if nicotine is legal, then cannabis should be. The law should be consistent. Mind you, I will never touch the stuff, and it is obvious that is in everyone's best interest to stay away from the stuff unless you use it for medicinal purposes.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-10-22 00:46:45 UTC
If peroxide is legal, so should be cyanide!

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adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-10-22 01:14:38 UTC
I had a very in depth conversation with someone on the subject while blazed, I bring it to the EVE community because I know so many stoners here now its ridiculous.
Myxx
The Scope
#7 - 2011-10-22 01:45:05 UTC
I think its a good idea. It gives other places in the world to do the same - and eventually, it wont be illegal anywhere.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#8 - 2011-10-22 01:50:11 UTC
You lucky bastards.


You don't have a narco-terrorist shadow government running your country. If we legalize pot here, the bastards stand to lose a lot of money.

I refer to the USA.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-10-22 02:04:01 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
You lucky bastards.


You don't have a narco-terrorist shadow government running your country. If we legalize pot here, the bastards stand to lose a lot of money.

I refer to the USA.


Hehe, you and your drugs

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SpaceSquirrels
#10 - 2011-10-22 02:07:56 UTC
If only the stoners would get off their asses and vote for it. Got shot down hard in California. Actually a lot of the growers spent money on anti legalization campaigns because they make so much profit as it stands as "semi legal" .

Stoners are their own worst enemy. At least some good news in Chicago city officials are pushing for petty offenses to not be enforced as it costs more money for the whole thing, and many get thrown out of court anyway.

Whole thing is a joke right now. The "medical" marijuana laws, and who really cares if people get high (on pot...other drugs are differences issue) People going to prison for it. Make the same laws apply to it like alcohol, move on with out lives.

More power to the UK to do it.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-10-22 02:49:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia
Taedrin wrote:
Honestly, if nicotine is legal, then cannabis should be. The law should be consistent. Mind you, I will never touch the stuff, and it is obvious that is in everyone's best interest to stay away from the stuff unless you use it for medicinal purposes.


you sound like your saying yes, but then you kinda say no
you start by standing on a principle and end with giving yourself an out

Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
If peroxide is legal, so should be cyanide!


I like false equivocations!

Because tobacco is harmless like peroxide and cannabis is equivalent to cyanide.
"Well not really but I'll elude to it and if that's the conclusion you draw it's on you"

SpaceSquirrels wrote:
If only the stoners would get off their asses and vote for it. Got shot down hard in California. Actually a lot of the growers spent money on anti legalization campaigns because they make so much profit as it stands as "semi legal" .

Stoners are their own worst enemy. At least some good news in Chicago city officials are pushing for petty offenses to not be enforced as it costs more money for the whole thing, and many get thrown out of court anyway.

Whole thing is a joke right now. The "medical" ********* laws, and who really cares if people get high (on pot...other drugs are differences issue) People going to prison for it. Make the same laws apply to it like alcohol, move on with out lives.

More power to the UK to do it.


Lack of voter turnout is a problem across the board. Pretending there is one unified easily stereotyped faction of people that support legalization, then attributing your argument towards some fantasy juvenile archetype doesn't do you and credit.

In the US, while a constituency bears the burden of holding their government responsible, the pressure and arguments to be made are better directed at firm facts and those who would see injustice to maintain the status quo.

To put it another way: No matter how many people go out and vote there will never be a national ballot measure to legalize it. In light of that, it's pressure on our government to release it's iron grip by recognizing their very categorization of the plant as a schedule 1 drug is a lie (by their own admission) that should be the focus here. We are well beyond blaming the constituency. Mythical stoners or otherwise.
Adunh Slavy
#12 - 2011-10-22 02:52:31 UTC
Niraia wrote:
Never saw the point of it being illegal.



Never saw the point of it being illegal.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Kurfin
Kippers and Jam Developments
#13 - 2011-10-22 08:11:50 UTC
They should legalise the lot, not just cannabis, and license it's production. Supply addicts with free what ever it is they are addicted to and ensure there are enough rehab places for all those who need/want them.

The war on drugs is incredibly expensive, and unwinnable. The illegal drugs trade fuels violence and theft, tears communities apart and funds terrorism. It is time we gave up on prohibition, it doesn't work and does huge amounts of damage to people and budget deficits.
Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-10-22 08:24:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Something Random
This comes round every - i reckon 7 to 8 years in the UK. Its normally accompanied with 'Vote Liberal Democrat this year/term and they will legalise cannabis'....

I am throwing a huge assumption that this is a Liberal thrown issue currently (havnt heard of any potential reversals on the last reversal of the first reversal........Question)

As said above, even the growers dont want it legalised as then it loses market value and will no doubt increase the production expenses through license and import costs. Any 'expert' advice is invariably a professional physician who would never support it, even if they smoked it themselves - its virtual professional suicide, let alone political.

Anyway, in short it wont happen... too much in the way of 'opposite agenda' on too many sides.

Daily Mail is gonna run its usual campaign i guess. lulz.


Oh, and it will NEVER EVER goto a referendum. FYI.

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Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-10-22 09:08:26 UTC
Something Random wrote:
This comes round every - i reckon 7 to 8 years in the UK. Its normally accompanied with 'Vote Liberal Democrat this year/term and they will legalise cannabis'....

I am throwing a huge assumption that this is a Liberal thrown issue currently (havnt heard of any potential reversals on the last reversal of the first reversal........Question)

As said above, even the growers dont want it legalised as then it loses market value and will no doubt increase the production expenses through license and import costs. Any 'expert' advice is invariably a professional physician who would never support it, even if they smoked it themselves - its virtual professional suicide, let alone political.

Anyway, in short it wont happen... too much in the way of 'opposite agenda' on too many sides.

Daily Mail is gonna run its usual campaign i guess. lulz.


Oh, and it will NEVER EVER goto a referendum. FYI.


Yeah, people are always trying to change the world. It never happens. We need to just stop trying stuff. It will NEVER EVER happen.

I bet your the type of guy that can talk himself out of having a good time.
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#16 - 2011-10-22 11:02:34 UTC

- If people want to get stoned they'll GET stoned, laws or no laws.
- All the money used to enforcing anti-weed laws is been paid by your taxes.
- There is a major difference between hard drugs and soft drugs. Alcohol is WAY more dangerous than THC, trust me on this, yet alcohol is still more or less glorified and THC is FROM THE DEVIL.

Disclaimer : Smoke weed long enough and it will start to rot your brain. Like all good things, moderation is key.
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-10-22 11:15:36 UTC
Louis deGuerre wrote:

- If people want to get stoned they'll GET stoned, laws or no laws.
- All the money used to enforcing anti-weed laws is been paid by your taxes.
- There is a major difference between hard drugs and soft drugs. Alcohol is WAY more dangerous than THC, trust me on this, yet alcohol is still more or less glorified and THC is FROM THE DEVIL.

Disclaimer : Smoke weed long enough and it will start to rot your brain. Like all good things, moderation is key.


Of course, I am not a hard core smoker, I smoke with friends with the rare lonesome spliff to myself when I want to relax completely.

Alcohol is far more addictive and dangerous than cannabis, as well as smoking, both cause a considerable amount of deaths every year, yet cannabis hasn't caused a single one *ever*. Aside from that guy in 1995 who was so stoned he forgot how to puke and choked himself to death.
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2011-10-22 12:46:06 UTC
Well I am Dutch so.... no comment on this subject muwhahaha.

Technically weed isn't legal here but buying it in special stores and having a max of 5 grams on you won't get you in trouble. And every adult can have 5 plants!

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adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-10-22 13:10:43 UTC
Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:
Well I am Dutch so.... no comment on this subject muwhahaha.

Technically weed isn't legal here but buying it in special stores and having a max of 5 grams on you won't get you in trouble. And every adult can have 5 plants!


5 grams your classed as a dealer here...
SpaceSquirrels
#20 - 2011-10-22 15:27:51 UTC
adopt wrote:
Louis deGuerre wrote:

- If people want to get stoned they'll GET stoned, laws or no laws.
- All the money used to enforcing anti-weed laws is been paid by your taxes.
- There is a major difference between hard drugs and soft drugs. Alcohol is WAY more dangerous than THC, trust me on this, yet alcohol is still more or less glorified and THC is FROM THE DEVIL.

Disclaimer : Smoke weed long enough and it will start to rot your brain. Like all good things, moderation is key.


Of course, I am not a hard core smoker, I smoke with friends with the rare lonesome spliff to myself when I want to relax completely.

Alcohol is far more addictive and dangerous than cannabis, as well as smoking, both cause a considerable amount of deaths every year, yet cannabis hasn't caused a single one *ever*. Aside from that guy in 1995 who was so stoned he forgot how to puke and choked himself to death.


lol then apparently it has killed someone. True not from over dosing, but as a result from it. Alcohol related incidents are grouped in much the same way.(same with other drugs) Actually from working in the E.R quite a bit of people get into car accidents high. Not like bad "wrap your car around a tree" mind you. More like really dumb **** of rear ending others kinda thing. None the less still impairs function/reaction.

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