Jita Park Speakers Corner

While I've known about EVE for a long time, I only just recently (in the past week after a trial period) subscribed. This, you might think, is a very odd time to subscribe, with the uncertainty of the future of the game. I joined because I am sick, completely sick, of other MMOs and their free to play/pay to win models, with their catering solely to the most casual players possible, making the game as simple and easy as possible, and caring not a sliver for their veteran playerbase.

I've left one such game recently, along with many of my RL friends and kin/guild mates after playing it for years. I know EVE has its problems, but let me tell you, if you are like me and love PVP, love risk, love freedom, love real difficulty and challenge in a game, and love a game that rewards the investment of time, then the MMO market is an utter wasteland. After trying out many games, Eve is the best there is IMO.

The piece of feedback I have, then, is this: Capitalize on the fact that EVE doesn't just hold a corner in a market, EVE IS the market. The moment EVE capitulates to the purely causal, the simplistic, the instant satisfaction, and the free-to-play/pay-to-win model, the game is done. I'm out, most of the current players are out, the people who run the fantastic fan sites and wikis that bring new players (like me) into the game are out. And for you Eve vets that are getting fed up, stick with it even though Eve seems to have the whiniest players around. There's hope. And at the end of the day, there's also no where else to go.

Now...I look forward to being ganked by all of you.

I said for years if I played an MMO it would be Eve. I avoided it as long as I could because I knew it would hook me, and it has.

OP is absolutely right. The more you "dumb down" Eve and make it friendly for the casual MMO players, the more you push away your hardcore player base. Remember that Eve's publicity is tenuous at best, and most of its coverage in gaming publications has to do with what the players get up to. Eve doesn't have epic quests. It doesn't have instances that require entire corps to handle them. The compelling content is created by US, the players. If you take that away, or drive away the guys who create that news, Eve is doomed to wither and die.

Ive been to deklein and all of you stayed in your stations :( or POS stations.

Fully concurr with the OPs opinion. I am in the same boat. The lack of a generic "everyone gets everything" broadest-appeal as possible makes this game unique and interesting.

If CCP/EVE want's to attract more players without losing others by making it mainstream casual, they have to completely throw away this horribly god awful user interface and replace it completely (not just add long overdue standard features like scaling and fonts with distinguashable characters). It's the first thing new players see and it's just extremly bad. I am convinced newbies fight the UI more than the less usual game philosophy and lots quit without being able to actually tell and give feedback why they didn't like it, when it was due to the UI. There's a little anecdote from Blizzard at http://www.virginworlds.com/pg.php?n=3406&tran=yes that exemplifies how huge an influence even the tiniest problem in the UI can have (quoted as it's a big text):



I am also sure that this post changes nothing and we will still fight with this horribly UI from 1992 in 3 years.

I am not sure this has much to do with csm.

But I concur

What makes eve different?

Its really player driven, like everything. Even in empire the majority of the 'safe' market is players. About everything but BPO, skill books is players.

The CCP makes lore, but the bigger story is what players do. The mittani wages war on industry in galante high sec causing oxygen isotopes to rise in price. No game master coded this, it was done by players. One empire falls another rises, the NC used to be the largest most stable power block in game, same with band of brothers.

Quoting a guy who stays in an NPC corp.

I have played a certain MMO for 4 years. My final day was when I ventured out of the faction camp and realized that all of this redundancy was pointless and painfully boring.

I came back to Eve and I don't think I will unsub. Every time I undock I ask myself the following question: What is going to happen today? The beauty of this game is that nothing is certain and you are never entirely safe. ANYTHING can happen. Honestly I appreciate the piracy and the deceit. These brigands, these scammers, these griefers, call them what you will, these players bring an interesting element to this game. Yes there has been an uproar lately on the subject of the Goonswarm and ice mining and this puts a smile on my face. Not because carebears are being affected because I wish no ill will towards anybody personally, but because this specific alliance is composed of players who make things happen. In all of this I try to imagine ways on how I can make a good profit.

At this moment, I am still relatively new and there isn't much I can do. However, I will continue increasing my SP and I will read as much as I can on this universe. I will listen to those who are generous enough to teach what I have to know to survive. CCP will continue receiving my hard earned money just as long as they keep this game dangerous and uncertain.

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