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[proposal] Remove POS from WH
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Roger McMillan
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-21 21:41:27 UTC
It seems that a large number of WH space seems populated by farmers who experience very little danger from other players in WH space even without local and think the reward is too big for the risk involved. I would suggest removing moons or removing the ability to anchor a POS in WH space. Think this changes would also slightly improve low-sec because pilots would need to explore more instead of basing out of one and collapsing other WH until new spawns.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-10-21 21:58:08 UTC
WTF...I expected this from Mittani...

This is stupid. Have you ever even lived in a WH? Do you have any idea how much time and effort it takes to scan every day, to keep your POS fueled every day? Have you been in a fight in WH space? Do you have any idea how much risk can be involved with collapsing a WH even if you are keeping track of the mass going through? Appearently not...

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-21 22:02:19 UTC
Roger McMillan wrote:
It seems that a large number of WH space seems populated by farmers who experience very little danger from other players in WH space even without local and think the reward is too big for the risk involved. I would suggest removing moons or removing the ability to anchor a POS in WH space. Think this changes would also slightly improve low-sec because pilots would need to explore more instead of basing out of one and collapsing other WH until new spawns.


Your joking right?

Your trying to troll to hard.

-10/10

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-10-21 22:02:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
WTF...I expected this from Mittani...

This is stupid. Have you ever even lived in a WH? Do you have any idea how much time and effort it takes to scan every day, to keep your POS fueled every day? Have you been in a fight in WH space? Do you have any idea how much risk can be involved with collapsing a WH even if you are keeping track of the mass going through? Appearently not...


Mittani? No.

you? in light of your recent ideas? Saddly..yes.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2011-10-21 23:46:09 UTC
Roger McMillan wrote:
It seems that a large number of WH space seems populated by farmers who experience very little danger from other players in WH space even without local and think the reward is too big for the risk involved. I would suggest removing moons or removing the ability to anchor a POS in WH space. Think this changes would also slightly improve low-sec because pilots would need to explore more instead of basing out of one and collapsing other WH until new spawns.


Sure, but only if we remove stations from empire.

Roll
Endovior
PFU Consortium
#6 - 2011-10-22 00:53:33 UTC
Feh, not even an interesting troll...
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-10-22 03:44:49 UTC
Roger McMillan wrote:
It seems that a large number of WH space seems populated by farmers who experience very little danger from other players in WH space even without local
You've obviously never lived in a wormhole ever. Your ignorant statement is proof enough. Just yesterday we lost an orca in PvP inside our wormhole. We get neutrals coming and going inside our wormhole all the time. We have to arm ourselves and keep vigilant at all times to stay alive. Very little danger from other players my ass.

Roger McMillan wrote:
the reward is too big for the risk involved.
The reward is only for those who can take it. Not every corp who waltzes into a wormhole become wealthy. Many corps who choose WH life fail because they cannot keep up with the costs of POS fuel or the constant harassment of other players.

Roger McMillan wrote:
I would suggest removing moons or removing the ability to anchor a POS in WH space.
I would suggest actually living in wormhole space first before forming an opinion about it.

Roger McMillan wrote:
this changes would also slightly improve low-sec because pilots would need to explore more instead of basing out of one and collapsing other WH until new spawns.
Without exploration there's nothing to be had in wormholes. Seriously, your ignorance of WH mechanics and life is one thing, but having the gall to form opinions about a subject you clearly know nothing about reeks of stupidity.

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Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2011-10-22 03:52:53 UTC
Troll or not, biomass yourself.
Goose99
#9 - 2011-10-22 04:49:25 UTC
Remove POS for c1-c2, maybe c3 holes. They're impossible to kill given wh limit. And it would free up holes for beginner wh explorers from highsec to get into the trade.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-22 04:58:15 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Remove POS for c1-c2, maybe c3 holes. They're impossible to kill given wh limit. And it would free up holes for beginner wh explorers from highsec to get into the trade.


Not anymore.....

wait for Tier 3 BC's.

POS Bashing just got a little more interesting.

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Zarazor Haargrim
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-10-22 11:06:36 UTC
Roger McMillan wrote:
It seems that a large number of WH space seems populated by farmers who experience very little danger from other players in WH space even without local and think the reward is too big for the risk involved. I would suggest removing moons or removing the ability to anchor a POS in WH space. Think this changes would also slightly improve low-sec because pilots would need to explore more instead of basing out of one and collapsing other WH until new spawns.


Roll doesn't even say it. My IQ dropped reading this.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#12 - 2011-10-22 14:34:05 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
Remove POS for c1-c2, maybe c3 holes. They're impossible to kill given wh limit. And it would free up holes for beginner wh explorers from highsec to get into the trade.


Not anymore.....

wait for Tier 3 BC's.

POS Bashing just got a little more interesting.


OR ... maybe throw up your own POS, build stuff... bash theirs (yes, it's a long campaign... but if you're that interested in bashing the other POS...)

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Takara Mora
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-22 20:46:07 UTC
Roger McMillan wrote:
It seems that a large number of WH space seems populated by farmers who experience very little danger from other players in WH space even without local and think the reward is too big for the risk involved. I would suggest removing moons or removing the ability to anchor a POS in WH space. Think this changes would also slightly improve low-sec because pilots would need to explore more instead of basing out of one and collapsing other WH until new spawns.



"Too much of space is taken up by people putting up structures that are too hard to destroy" .... "There's no reason casual boneheads shouldn't be able to easily destroy other peoples (weeks and months of hard work hauling, constructing, etc.) structures on a whim whenever they want, easily and without having to work hard for it".

Also, just b/c there's a POS inside a WH, doesn't keep you from raiding all the sites, which is evidently all you intend to do anyway ...
Shin Dari
Covert Brigade
#14 - 2011-10-23 10:09:03 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Remove POS for c1-c2, maybe c3 holes. They're impossible to kill given wh limit.

Only if you are incompetent.
Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-10-24 03:04:15 UTC
Shin Dari wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
Remove POS for c1-c2, maybe c3 holes. They're impossible to kill given wh limit.

Only if you are incompetent.


^^ WINNER!

A POS is a POS is a POS. It will die no matter where it is if you know what you are doing.

Not supported and terrible troll btw.
el alasar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-18 00:24:14 UTC
do POS in WH get raided by sleepers? i think they would really try to claim back their occupied space...

eve is about options... and we need many more... but give them possibly irrational / high prices, so it is up to the players to decide what to do...

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-11-18 13:55:40 UTC
el alasar wrote:
do POS in WH get raided by sleepers? i think they would really try to claim back their occupied space...

eve is about options... and we need many more... but give them possibly irrational / high prices, so it is up to the players to decide what to do...


Why, oh why, did you necro this horribad thread?

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-11-18 14:27:00 UTC
Honestly...she necro'd a lot of horrible threads...including a couple of my own...lol

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Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#19 - 2011-11-18 16:00:10 UTC
This is awesome.. I completely missed this gem of a thread..
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-11-18 17:20:55 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Honestly...she necro'd a lot of horrible threads...including a couple of my own...lol



Hence why I call noob on said person.

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