EVE General Discussion

Gnosis is a BC, FTFY

You're absolutely allowed to play the game in the way in which you want to. Hi-sec still exists, and it will continue to exist. But you shouldn't be making "good" ISK when you have a ship that simply tears apart anything you throw it at. It's not healthy for the game.

Hell, with Tags4Sec and the new explo, I feel low-sec should STILL be buffed, but that's just because I'm biased.

Are you kidding?

You're kidding right?


Tell me more about Faction fitted Machariels/Vindicators/Nightmares/Rattlesnakes Gilas Navy ships and other pimp stuff that should be banned from high sec too.

From your point of view players in high sec should fly with T1 frigates and cruisers only? -because that's what you're implying since T3's are not what you're talking about or at least you've never flown a 3K+DPS Machariel/Vindicator able to clean entire sanctums in less than 20min, leave it alone lvl4's.

You're finding problems where there aren't any, it's players actions and the content they crate for themselves. Someone tells you to do it in a T3? -I don't think so, I don't think neither it's in the EULA, don't like it? don't use it
Make your own content, build your own gaming tools, this is the finest freedom you have available in Eve, you shape yourself your gaming world.
Hell go run lvl4's in a retriever or a T2 frigate if you like, the problems you might find is not tools available but players horrible thinking.

Edit because it's worth: low sec doesn't need more buffs, just needs better thinking players over there.

The entire point being OP is delivering tears and rage for peanuts, believe me I've made huge efforts to not troll this (harder)

I understand you point of view, thing is that by that logic CCP are not being logic, what about ban from lvl4's Marauders/Navy ships/Pirate ships?

By that logic then why not ban T2 links/OGB and T2 mining ships from high sec?-those have a well known huge impact

By that logic again why not ban from high sec POSs?-those clearly have a huge impact

It's exactly the same problems but a lot bigger and having a greater impact than T3's running 3/4 anoms, instead of fixing anom difficulty or the mechanic it's easier and faster to script ban an item, and this is silly.

It's as if you're implying CCP hates your freedom and ingenuity and seeks to ruin your fun.

All they did was not allow a beastly monster of a scanning/clearing combo ship to enter lowbie sites.

There is so much to say but I won't bother to say too much since it will fall on deaf ears anyway.

I would like to point out that I do have a toon in null sec. I use him for mining and pos defence for the alliance that supports me in my exploration of null sec.

I have had toons in militia for over a year before finially giving that up since I pretty much sucked at it.

I have had POS in worm space for six months or so...right up to the point that CCP changed the fuel cells and the customs offices and cut all profits from that operation to almost zero.

I found many good people in game and I enjoy playing with them.

High sec space is where this particular toon stays. I have always tried to make the best of the sites I have found. I run them and have fun doing it. I do not steal and I will always try to help people in local. I take time to offer gravs to miners in local and to offer any and all wrecks WITH loots to new players who are willing to fleet and come salvage. I ask nothing in return.

I have given away many of my finds including ships.

There are many people who know me and know this to be true.

I just play a different game than the majority here.

I have another main toon on another account that has built up skills to manufacture t3 and has been doing so for a short while. More time wasted.

This 'nerf' has hurt in many ways. I was not ranting to rant. I honestly think that exploration changes were needed but not to the extent of destroying what the exploration career was all about.
They have made it into something else and it is not good.

So after reading all the posts and reply's something has occurred to me. No one has yet to acknowledge the fact that some, not all, but at least some of the 4/10 sites have the ability to brake the tank of even the toughest T3's.

Now i know some of you out there are immediately going to say when you must not have a good fit for your T3.. You may be right. so i would invite you to link me a fit that get better then 890 dps (hams), 1400 active repping tank, and goes faster then 1200ms. (YOU HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED)

Now considering those spec for a simple high-sec lvl 4 mission and exploration **** you would think it would sweep the floor with all high sec sites. In most cases it does. Yet there have been a few 4/10 sites in which the speed at which my ships ability clear the field or burn off from the npcs has been the difference between living to collect the loot or dieing in a ball of fire.

I tell you this not because I am some how pissed at the changes or feel slighted by CCP for making the changes they did. in the end i only run the sight on occasion and just for fun. I've been playing the game long enough to find another ship to use or something else to pass my time.

I tell you this because if players with nearly 9 yrs of EVE game play, flying ships that filled with bling have troubles somethings; what will happen the genuinely new players who are most likely barely able to fly there T1/ cruisers and BC's ( even if they are faction) going to do in these sights?

After all they are intended to new players right? That is the argument on why T3's have to be banned..

At no point in my post did I claim any right to ownership. What I referred to was more a point of manners and courtesy. If someone else is already running a site, I leave. Manners and Courtesy.

If someone else is running a site and you choose to blow past them to the shiny drop container at the end, that's Greed and Selfishness.

See the difference ?

Cant believe I actually had to spell that out

Cant wait for the t3 nerfs.