EVE General Discussion

Indeed, but here we are on the forums, trying to do something even harder, getting it changed after the fact.

There is no old system.

I'm shure you meant to say "the hard working afk miners". Isn't it? Because non-afkers have eyes.

I know they want to simplify eve for the masses who have either no real intellect or patients but this is just ridiculous. We should at least have a mini game of sorts using on board ship systems.

It is clear, CCP wants to extract more money from the players. You can benefit in the WH and have you seen the PLEX. Pay, Pay, Pay .... It is the purpose, nothing will come back, do not be stupid!

i agree this change suck and we tried 2 point it out when it was announced.
as said ealier we now have any way to defend ourselves we tried the scenario over and over again yesterday a interceptor/dramiel can get to your hulk before the hulk manage to get out of the belt.
the only good thing is at some point even the pvpers will start whine when every thing starts to cost a freaking fortune since no one can get except highsec can get some seriosly mining done.

Im going to be speaking for wh miners on this one. You are just as safe before the patch, in fact safer is some situations. Yes they do not have too scan down the ore site but they will not warp on top of you either. you will still have ample time too warp out because you could be a long distance away from the warp in point. Another thing, if a k 162 pops up in system you will know about it imediately due too the new mechanics. As for hulkagedon and high sec miners well your SOL and I cant help you there

I have said from the alpha they released on Sisi, CCP, where have your logic and thinking skills gone, probably in not such a nice manner tbh.

The Ice belt move was a good thing, its visible on screen to all just like now, IF CCP had used the same mechanic/code on static system belts that would have been awesome, it makes miners work a bit harder for sure but takes away the monotony of same belts all the time at static can bookmarks.

Grav sites providing ores outside of the system limitations should have remained accessible only through scanning, they are a reward for the work of scanning them down, its that simple.

A side effect of the changes is the breaking of the Null/High trade dependency link to a degree, only megacyte and morphite are now not freely available to mine in high sec, everything else is available 23¾/7 to everyone and many grav sites that were never mined are now stripped within hours of spawning (low sec probably now has a wealth of them for 3 days as their re-spawn is region wide). Add this to the buff of low ends in high end ores the incentive for haulers from Null to High has changed, they can now price gouge even better as the return trips provide less utility as compressed low end minerals are not required in the same volume.

CCP failed to make mining for all more dynamic and protect the risk/effort reward mechanics that make the EvE sandbox what it is, they have placed preformed concrete castles in the box and are too arrogant/focus on getting more short term cash for the shareholders by getting more short lasting subs.

Lander, Soundwave and Co are making a game in their image and not a sandbox with unintended consequences

I wonder if you have been in a wh ore site my dear. Most of the time i spend almost over 100km from the warp in point on avg and that is due too the natural size of these things. you will be long gone the second an unfriendly is on d scan and you start too warp, and even if you are delayed by a few seconds the unfriendly in most situations will not be able too burn too you fast enough before your gone.

no they are not....grav site are annomelies and directly warpable to once you land in the system

As many to have 40+ accounts to mine ice....yes!

Or did you think that was a Chinese farmer doing it for ISK???

God forbid, the wiped out roid belts with freighter cans stamped with Alliance tickers that lead right back to null, too.

/facepalm