Missions & Complexes

So; I have just finished doing my 13th exploration site since the patch went live today. This was after finding out that there was no promised devblog on how to collect the loot or what loot will be dropped (check TMC if you want a useful guide).

As it stands; I have counted just how many clicks it has taken me to do all the sites and the total amount of loot gained from it.

For *just* the hacking minigame + loot collection of these 13 nullsec sites (good nullsec space too, mind you) - I have clicked 8,580 times.

For a grand total of approximately 65mil loot.


Speaking as someone who has once clocked up over 90 hours in one week playing CSS - I'm no stranger to lots of clicking.


Today, however, my finger hurts.

At an average of 165 clicks per can in a site (hacking AND loot collection) ; with an average of 4 cans per site AND making sure to collect all of the 'data' containers first, everything else second and scraps last - this new 'hacking' mechanic I would have to click 72,930 times to afford a single plex.

I won't be able to sustain 3x accounts from running these new sites. Neither will I want to. This decision is worse than the pointless Captains Quarters. Any game designer that thinks going from maybe a few hundred clicks a month to to over 72,000 is 'fun' is not a game designer of a game I want to play.

This doesn't even include the frustration of completing 95% of the hacking minigame only to find it impossible to finish. Or when you start and almost immediately find it impossible. Or when; after your second attempt at the same can, the can explodes giving you nothing.


Best bit - did you know that you have to click on the new little cans that explode? The ones that don't show up on your overview at all? Yeah; you also have to search through them as they fly away and flash at you to try and find the 'slightly less worthless' ones. Eve has always been historically great at searching through lots of quickly moving things in space and somehow managing to click the correct ones without having a static table of information on your overview amrite?


Dear CCP,

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Sincerely,

My finger.


Edit - for the people who are whining about my lack of winning in Eve. I have also done (and continue to do for some) plenty of invention, production, PI, PVP/looting and market

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Sorry, but if you're only getting 4 cans, you suck the balls.

I'm averaging 6 with 7 occasionally attainable.

I've not worked out the full amount gained yet, but I've pulled about 70 mill in T2 salvage alone (from 10 sites)

Stop grabbing the scrap cans, you scrub and go for all the others.

Also, stop bitching about something new that you clearly don't know how to use properly yet.

I like the part where CCP owes you a simple easy way to fund 3 accounts for free.

You should quit. Clearly they broke the winning of Eve.

I have clicked 8,580 times.


Really? You counted that?

You have too much time on your hands and CCP knows it.

Good thing they found a way to keep you busy.

I don't know what sites you were doing, but you understand that certain null mag sites used to yeld me from 60m to 200m+ pre Oddysey PER SITE. If its Gurista or Serp sites you were doing, and you are happy for 70m from 10 sites (and if it possibly turns out thats the average real income from those 10 sites) then im just gonna stop exploration couse its hillarious how bad it it for ISK making compared to certain other pve activity (hey FW waving at you).

No dude, it has nothing to do with that at all. I could do them with a heron before actually. Only now it's worthless, time consuming and ridiculously click-intensive.

What.

No you're entirely wrong. The amount of clicks in PVP even without auto-fire is nothing short of a fraction of the amount that the new sites need. Also - the new hacking sites are LUCK based so the total amount of loot has dropped significantly when you factor in if the site is actually possible/how likely anyone is to complete it.

Exploration is accessible yeah, it's also worthless to anyone with a char more than a week old.

I HAVE PVE alts, this is a PVE alt. It does other PVE things.

My problem,

As I have said,

The % amount of clicks required has increased so dramatically, whilst the output has also decreased drastically to render it pointless.





THE ENTIRE POINT of EVE is to have fun. Not accessible to everyone but FUN and as accessible to everyone it can be whilst still being FUN.

This new mechanic is not FUN in any way. It is horrible repetitive and frustrating because of how luck and click intensive it is. Sure it's accessible. But no-one wants to ride the free, accessible ****** bus if you just get repeatedly poked in the eye whilst you ride it.

Your argument "YOU HAVE TO BE PATIENT AND TOLERANT FOR FUN DURR!!!""""


My argument: "Going from being patient to wait for a random drop to having to do a ton of **** for less than a 10th of what the random drop used to be, and you're much more likely to get nothing at all is less fun"


Also I forgot to mention - I was dualboxing and most of the time missed only 1 or 2 cans. I only counted the value of one character though, since the 2nd character got even less and going from 50-300mil a site on one character to about 80mil a site for two is silly.