Ships & Modules

They should be there for EFT versions 2.21 and 2.21.1


Make sure you are using latest EFT version and, as suggested earlier, not reading your falloff from module tooltip. Post your fit and reported falloff values from EVE and EFT if you have this problem anyways.

The "Warp Core Optimizer" rig (all sizes, all levels) is bad, it gives an armor drawback, and ingame it's a CPU drawback (however, values are correct).

The site where you can download EFT has malware on it :/

I've been using EFT for some time. Not had any issues with it, until now. Part of this is due to having to complete a fresh install of Windows 7.

1. Where are ship fits stored? Not the xml file imported to eve, that I can find. It seems I am missing many fits that were built.

2. Having problems copy/paste of fits that did previously work. It just locks up the program for a bit, then if it does import it the fits are empty. Specifically this was tried with stealth bomber, and stabber fits. I gave up after that. This has been attempted on both PC that was fresh install of windows, and the laptop.

screenshot - screenshot of copy/paste error



Any help you provide would be appreciated.


Regards
Davo

They are in EFT folder in subfolder called "Setups".


Probably I've broke something with recent internal changes but so far I was unable to reproduce this issue or find anything wrong. Can you check few more fits to find out if it is any setup import attempt gives you such error or maybe it is exclusive for the few you tried before (and in such case post one of those setups here). The error message appears before or after you are presented an empty setup window? Also, do you have "Selected Item Info" window opened when you get an error and if you are, does closing it make issue go away?


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Hey Gripen,

Something not working for me. I've formatted fits in text as ...

[Ship, name]
low module
low module
...
...

mid module
...
...
...

high module, ammo type (tried without ammo as well)
...
...


And it just does nothing when I copy and paste. What am I missing here?


Kesker

I've managed to reproduce exact same behavior but it requires copied text to have lines separated in the format typical for Unix systems and not Windows. What kind of application you use to copy fits and can you confirm that pasting copied text to notepad, then copying it from there and importing to EFT works ok?


Same as above, what kind of application you use to copy fits and can you confirm that pasting copied text to notepad, then copying it from there and importing to EFT works ok?

I've managed to reproduce exact same behavior but it requires copied text to have lines separated in the format typical for Unix systems and not Windows. What kind of application you use to copy fits and can you confirm that pasting copied text to notepad, then copying it from there and importing to EFT works ok?

Gripen,

I am using Windows 7 and copy / paste was from a PDF document using Adobe. Have had no previous issues. I did try to copy into notebook and then transfer, but no luck with that either. I tried using Word and typed the fit out as well. No luck.

on curiosity, I visited a wikki page E-uni and the copy and paste of their fits worked just fine. Don't know what that means to any of this.

Davo

I have the latest version of EFT. I have ensured my API info is current. However, my AWU skill is showing level 2 when it is actually at 3. Double checked in EVE, it is 3, and when I manually change it to 3 in EFT and import API info again, it changes back to level 2.

Thanks for a great program and for keeping it up to date
+1


Feedback about the capacitor:
There is a discrepancy between the capacitor stability between the EVE fitting window and the EFT predictions, where EFT appears to be more generous. But all the -GJ values for module activation are spot on, and the +GJ from regeneration looks good too. So the differance must be in the equation that predicts the capacitor recharge.
Dust puppy who first cracked the equation believed "Cap recharge time"/Tau to be 4.8 (http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=116993) , which I suspect is the value that EFT uses. Seamus Donohue of E-UNI has looked at Tau as well and he believes that the ratio should be 5.0 instead (http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Capacitor_Recharge_Rate). One thing of note is that Seamus measurements puts the capacitor peak recharge at 25%, while EFT appears to have it closer to 30%, I don't know if this is a result of the differance in Tau or if it comes from something else.
Seamus Tau value could be worth testing and comparing against the EVE fitting window (with a fit that is borderline stable, a little bit above +0 GJ) to see if a better correlation can be achieved. I would have liked to provide a good test-fit for this, but skills and implants are too important, so each character needs a fit tailored for him or her specifically.


edit: i looked closer at the formulas in the links above and managed to reach an equation that appears to give the same value for capstability as the EVE fitting window (a small rounding error can occur, since only 1 decimal place is shown)). This equation fails for ships with unstable caps (happens when used > peak).

capacitor stable at % = 100% * ( 1/2 - k/4 + sqrt(1/4 - k/4) ), where k = -(used cap/s) / (peak cap/s)
this expression uses Seamus Tau ratio and is a simplification of a formula that he made, much kudos to him

so for my scimitar with +54.8 cap/sec, that use modules costing -53.9 cap/sec, k = -(-53.9)/54.8=0.9836
the equation above gives the value 31.8%, the EVE fitting window gives the value 31.8%, EFT v2.21.1 gives 36%
(note: the EVE fitting windows capacitor % value is only seen when hovering the mouse over the partially filled capacitor icon near the top right)


edit 2: If you test the formula on a ship fitted with an MWD, keep in mind that online/ offline switching will change the "peak cap/s" too and not just "used cap/s". Easy to overlook if values are checked manually.