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EFT v2.35 - Citadel
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Violet Giraffe
Space Giraffes
#1741 - 2013-11-20 08:00:19 UTC
EFT 2.21 doesn't apply 10% falloff bonus from Minmatar Battleship skill to Vargur.
Sun Ying
Sun Ltd.
#1742 - 2013-11-20 09:42:27 UTC
pyfa vs eft

am i going crazy or missing something ? why such a huge range difference ?

pyfa neutron blaster 2 : 19.6 + 35.2 km
eft neutron blaster 2 : 20 + 44 km

i'm like doh.
Xhiucoatl Montezuma
Devils Diciples
#1743 - 2013-11-20 11:10:43 UTC
Thanks Again, Gripen for the latest version of EFT

Anyone that bashes this program should see how much longer it will take them to get their preferred fitting tool updated.

Okay, back to theorycrafting!!

Xhiu
Violet Giraffe
Space Giraffes
#1744 - 2013-11-20 11:35:59 UTC
Sun Ying wrote:
pyfa vs eft

am i going crazy or missing something ? why such a huge range difference ?

pyfa neutron blaster 2 : 19.6 + 35.2 km
eft neutron blaster 2 : 20 + 44 km

i'm like doh.

Kronos? Probably the same issue as with Vargur.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1745 - 2013-11-20 12:29:03 UTC
Shocked That be a VERY fast update.

Thank you very much for this tool :)
Nym Shadowblade
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1746 - 2013-11-20 12:41:13 UTC
Can I ask what the best way to update it is? Do we just have to copy over the original. Will keeping the setups in thh folder automatically sync them in the new one?

Thanks for such fast work
Alvin Exe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1747 - 2013-11-20 14:24:06 UTC
You rock !
Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1748 - 2013-11-20 17:41:31 UTC
Gripen, if you'd be so kind as to post a reply every so often so I can give you more likes, that'd be great.

Also, why aren't our fitting tool threads stickied?

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1749 - 2013-11-20 19:31:22 UTC
VaL Iscariot wrote:
wow. talk about a malware fiesta..

What.

Also Gripen... EFT is saying that the base warp speed of the malediction is 24 AU/s? That's most definitely not true...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Gripen
#1750 - 2013-11-20 19:56:24 UTC
New version 2.21.1 released.

William Kugisa wrote:
What are you using where having a drop down like control where items can be dragged up or down to change the order is not a possibility, either as something that already exists, sub-classing the existing control, or as a new control (would provide the best opportunity for nice effects, but more work)?

To be honest I've never ever seen such thing as sortable drop down list in any application and even have no idea how it's supposed to distinguish between user left clicking to select an item and left click to initiate dragging. Of course everything is possible with custom controls but question is if it worth additional work and possible issues on different systems and considering that such functionality will be not very clear to most users.

Klister Ethelred wrote:
Did it used to be the case that when you un-checked a MWD that the power grid numbers would change?

Uhm... no. And it should not be that way.

Buddelschiffsmutje wrote:
Maybe this is not an EFT but an EVE client problem:

When i want to import setups of my "All Fittings.xml" into my german EVE client, the import fails. When i switch to english language the import is successful.

Yes, that's a known localized client issue.

Violet Giraffe wrote:
EFT 2.21 doesn't apply 10% falloff bonus from Minmatar Battleship skill to Vargur.

Works for me. Bonus is applied as fixed 50%.

Sun Ying wrote:
pyfa vs eft

am i going crazy or missing something ? why such a huge range difference ? ...

Seems both are wrong as falloff should be even higher - EFT was using old 5% per level falloff bonus instead of new 10% per level.

Nym Shadowblade quote: Can I ask what the best way to update it is? Do we just have to copy over the original. Will keeping the setups in thh folder automatically sync them in the new one?

Recommended way of updating is described in FAQ.txt file supplied with EFT.

James Amril-Kesh quote: EFT is saying that the base warp speed of the malediction is 24 AU/s?

Shows 8 AU/s for me. Try a fresh copy and follow recommended update procedure (see above). You could get 24 AU/s if you mix data files from new version with executable from old version (previously "warpspeed" parameter used to denote multiplier to base warp speed of 3 AU/s and now it's a plain warp speed).
KILLSNIPER
White Council
#1751 - 2013-11-20 22:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Killsniper
I downloaded EFT today. One question: why is there no faction module?
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
#1752 - 2013-11-20 23:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Caius Sivaris
VaL Iscariot wrote:
wow. talk about a malware fiesta..


Where did you download it, and does the SHA-256 sum of the archive matches the one published?


KILLSNIPER wrote:
I downloaded EFT today because EVEHq is no more updated. One question: why is there no faction module?


Because you are bad. In the very window where you chose regular modules, don't you see Faction / Deadspace / Officer written at the bottom?
KILLSNIPER
White Council
#1753 - 2013-11-21 08:03:41 UTC
Thanks! Now i'm better.
Violet Giraffe
Space Giraffes
#1754 - 2013-11-21 10:14:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Violet Giraffe
Gripen wrote:

Violet Giraffe wrote:
EFT 2.21 doesn't apply 10% falloff bonus from Minmatar Battleship skill to Vargur.

Works for me. Bonus is applied as fixed 50%.

This is a fresh EFT unpacked to a new folder. Bonus is not applied. 36 km is base 29km + bonus from Trajectory Analysis, no additional 50% bonus is indicated.

http://i.piccy.info/i9/b4bf5bb0dba08f3eb720b734a8ab4815/1385028744/84970/651013/Untitled_2.jpg
Makkuro Tatsu
Spontaneous Massive Existence Failure
#1755 - 2013-11-21 12:39:21 UTC
EFT seriously rocks, Gripen. Thanks a lot for all your work!
danibw0i
Heimbrent
#1756 - 2013-11-21 14:03:30 UTC
Version 2.21.1:

For example with the Kronos, Gallente Battleship skill is supposed to give 5% dmg bonus + 10% falloff pr level.
When I alter the skill level on Gallente Battleship, it currently has no effect on the fitting output. Altering the Marauder skill works but not "BS skill level".

Oh, and btw, thx for a great app Smile
Set Terrad
x Never Regret x
C A M E L O T
#1757 - 2013-11-21 20:49:48 UTC
Thanks!
Rented
Hunter Heavy Industries
#1758 - 2013-11-21 23:53:04 UTC
danibw0i wrote:
Version 2.21.1:

For example with the Kronos, Gallente Battleship skill is supposed to give 5% dmg bonus + 10% falloff pr level.
When I alter the skill level on Gallente Battleship, it currently has no effect on the fitting output. Altering the Marauder skill works but not "BS skill level".

Oh, and btw, thx for a great app Smile


Some skills that are required to even sit in the ship are taken as a given, so lowering them will have no effect (aka. you can't use a Kronos without Gallente BS level 5 anyways).
Maktina
Zor's Club
B.E.A.R.S.
#1759 - 2013-11-22 03:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Maktina
I've put up a mirror of EFT 2.21.1 here: EFT mirror

File is an untouched exact copy.
Violet Giraffe
Space Giraffes
#1760 - 2013-11-22 08:30:06 UTC
I was wrong, sorry. Falloff is calculated correctly for Vargur, I was looking at wrong numbers.