EVE General Discussion

The ice belts in low sec seem to be full still.

EDIT: On a more serious note, if changes are to be made perhaps CCP should reduce the amount of ice in these belts by 1/2 and make the respawn 2 hours.

I have had 143B worth of ices before the expansion, I liquidated (with the help of some 3rd party tradars, it was just too much) a portion of it but still have freighters and freighters of isotopes.

Hardly a "victim" of this , but I don't want to be a rich man over a less populated game. I want competition to lose not to quit.

I have extensively mined in low and null sec too.

Regarding low sec, in order to actually do it for real, I was in a corp with 100+ online in prime time, we had to completely lock down the desired system for hours (5+ guys per gate, scout at WHs).

This means that only *some* would have any kind of benefit from those resources.

As most of the elderly EvE player base, when my job became more demanding, I had to quit such corp (my log in times became too sporadic and irregular) and become just another "casual".

Now, I am lucky I can still log in for many hours a day but how many are just cut off from *even getting a chance*?

I am ok with players actively denying resources etc, but this is a "NPC timer" based denial of game content.

Design wise, I put it on the same level of the new patcher: a joke.

While the OP doesn't like it, it sounds like this is working as intended. Those "waiting for spawn" are gonna make less then those actively scouting for them. You know what I find odd? That people still band together in "mining" or "exploration" corps with such specific focus on one type of carreer. If you had both disciplines in your corp, your explorers could simply post Ice locations in corp chat. The miners that will sit there for 30 mins keep an eye out for signatures that can be probed out.

Having bought a considerable amount of topes prior to the the expansion, hearing about all these ice mining fleets ragequitting makes me want to rub my hands together and cackle with mirth.

But that's not 4 hulks :'(

In all seriousness, try finding a corporation that matches your play style and make some friends, you'll appreciate the game more

Seems to me that if people, who used to run one or more ice-mining accounts afk while doing other stuff, will now cease to mine because it requires activity, this will lead to more ice remaining for those who actively play.

Guess what, CCP prefers players who actively play, even though they have not been very good at designing their game for them. They are trying to change that, and that is commendable.

A pure ice-miner subscription is worthless to the community, it's just a ghost ship using server resources all day and contributing nothing, even if it's not a bot. If CCP loses some of those subs, they will gain others in exchange because EVE will appear more vibrant and active.

I wouldn't say that the afk accounts are the only involved ones.

As i said, i travel so many times to find ice. This is the first day after the patch, that i found 1 belt.
And i ve to carry all the stuff with me, cause i never guess what i can found outside.
So i ve to change the gear in every system, depending what i will find there.

If i have more than one account, there would be no problem.
But i don't want to spend money in 2 Accounts or more.

For people like me, who are mining solo, it's not funny at all.
I agree that afk mining is a problem and not the point of all.
But this is just boring, to travel like hell for ice.

I don't like it and i hope there will be some ppl, who find a better solution than a anomaly spawn.

25 ships (2 Orcas), new belt got depleted in 56 minutes.

Once we get to regimen (I remind we had 220+ ships in local the day before Odyssey) we may have 50 ships, the belt will be stripped in 30 minutes.

Even with Jabber call to a next well, computing a 10 minutes of travel time (mining ships are very slow aligning and low PG so they may need to warp twice+ per system) it means that a miner has about 20 minutes to take a bite.

It's a bit too little, even with the doubled lasers speed. In fact logistics become a quite sensible burden considering the brief chance at benefitting of organizing between a group of players (Jabber, corps etc.)


Edit: I created this thread because CCP said they'd tweak the new mechanism based on players feedback, so here is one player feedback.