Ships & Modules

Yeah...whatever...

Can you change the hull to take away the extra turret hardpoint? It's fuckin' with my OCD hardcore.

thanks!

hahah

right, because having utility slots is bad. I guess it doesn't need medslots either, because who uses them...

An extra high slot IS useful... a heavy neut for example can easilly turn the tide of an otherwise hopeless enguagement

You really should get out of that Hyperion if "drones are a last resort," as you say. The 9 guns + additonal heavy drone make up some loss of the extra damage, and the additional low slot can fit another damage mod.

The Hyperion has been made awesome. If you're looking at the ship in one dimension, then of course your view of it is going to be skewed. It's got an excellent damage bonus from 6 turrets that take up less cap. Because of this, it now has a utility high slot for neut, smart bomb, et, whatever really. And its 8th high? Moved to a low slot! Damage mod, tank, speed, tracking, whatever. All that adds up to awesomesauce.

As far as your what should drones do when targets are at 150km? Well, two options. If you're in a Hyperion, and you're using blasters, then your ship has to close that gap anyway and makes heavy drones worthwhile. If you're using rails, then you can drop sentries that'll hit out to 150km. Either way, awesome Hyperion is awesome.

I like the new Hyperion very much.
The only thing that bothers me is that they didn't change the model to represent the lower amount of Turrets

Fits with no implants and no faction. Even with this full t2 fit you can get 1.5k max dps with 1.6k dps tank (Void + Ogres + Overheat). Even with a more conservative CN Anti + Ogres cold it still does 1215dps with 1250 dps tank, still has enough dronebay for 2 flights of lights for frig protection. On top of that it has a medium neut, full tackle, excellent cap, max range of 12.6+17.5km with Null (while still dealing 1k+dps), and has a speed of 990m/s (1415m/s OH) which is very good for a Battleship.

So yeah, the Hyperion is pretty darn amazing right now.

[Hyperion, PvP]

Large Armor Repairer II
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Anti-Explosive Pump I


Ogre II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5

It is more that the new hype just got to much fitting and HP, I am actually surprised that it made it to TQ with this stats. But then again it fits the hybrid buff philosophy like a glove, where you rather throw the fitting for neutrons on the hulls instead addressing core issues with the concept(tackling, effective tracking at point blank, maximizing dps application at point blank vs minimize it at medium range with blasters etc.).

The tank really is excellent, you only need to tank for 60seconds (cold) to double your EHP to 140k+, and that's not even a full AAR magazine, you'd still have 2 more pulses of the rep to go for a total of near 150kEHP. With only an OHed AAR (which you should) full cycle brings you to 170kEHP in 65 seconds so I'd say it's definitely competitive with buffer fits. Additionally you retain most of your mobility (save the anti-explosive rig) which is important in a blaster BS.

Honestly I've never flown the Hyperion, just theorycrafting, but the stats seem sound, obviously you're susceptible as hell to getting kited with anything that has a TD but your blasters can reach out to OH long point range with Null and you have backup drones so whatever is kiting you must have ewar or must be solid enough to break the Hypes tank and run it out of boosters/paste and live being shot at by Null and Drones, though they'd just run if they're losing. It's also still a BS and thus clunky enough to get caught by any roaming gang, but you should be able to take a few down with you and go down guns blazing unless you get ewared into the ground.

Are there any other glaring problems I'm missing? If not it seems that the Hype is actually a viable solo BS boat.

Well the old hype had to do a more reasonable tradeoff between dps, range and tank. Dualrep fittings where not so bad compared a normal plated gank BS, but they had only a small range with electrons, meaning they where a lot worse off vs kitting ships. This made hybrid tank fittings with plate plus single rep actually shine, since you had enough grid for Ions or even Neutrons and you had only a little bit less EHP than standard plate gank setups on the mega or the old geddon with the ability to use the rep to equalize EHP differences.

With the changes, you can fit dualrep plus neutrons and leave next to no weaknesses to exploit compared to a plate gank setup. I simply liked the more defined gallente balancing scheme from back in the days a lot more, where you had to make trade-offs and your main strength was dps application with the web/sig bloom mechanics once in range instead being able to fit everything effortless while being handy caped with the damage application by the 60% web and scram mechanics as it is now.

Rabble rabble Hyperiokh is no good! Give 8 turrets and optimal range to it!